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  • kentonio
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    Bad day for Mitch McConnell.

    Originally posted by HP
    Alison Lundergan Grimes Tied With Mitch McConnell In Senate Race: Poll

    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes (D) are running neck and neck in the 2014 Senate race, according to a new poll from the liberal group MoveOn.org.

    The survey, conducted by the Democratic firm Lake Research for MoveOn, found McConnell and Grimes each attracting 37 percent of likely Kentucky voters in the general election. McConnell had a commanding 50 percent to 17 percent lead over his primary challenger, tea party-aligned businessman Matt Bevin.

    The survey also found that 52 percent of the Kentucky voters rated McConnell unfavorably and 42 percent rated him favorably. Nationally, about 49 percent of Americans view him unfavorably -- a fact that Grimes' campaign hopes will give her a boost.

    Publicly released partisan-sponsored polls typically produce slightly better results for their clients than do polls with independent sponsorship. A study of publicly released horse race surveys between 2000 and 2002 found that "polls identified as partisan tended to skew in favor their sponsor about 3 percentage points and against their opponent by roughly the same amount."

    While a number of surveys have been conducted this year on the Senate race in Kentucky, all have been by partisan firms or sponsors. A previous Lake Research poll, taken in August for the liberal Public Campaign Action Fund, put Grimes 6 points ahead of McConnell. Two other recent Democratic surveys -- an internal Grimes poll by the Mellman Group in July and an Americans United for Change survey conducted by Public Policy Polling in October -- both gave Grimes a 2-point lead. The Republican firm Wenzel Strategies, meanwhile, found McConnell ahead 8 points in July.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4257007.html

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  • molly bloom
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    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    With spokesmen like yourself? That's understandable. They obviously aren't paying you enough.
    (Wakes from Sister Bendy induced slumber) Sorry, dropped off. You were saying ?

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  • Ben Kenobi
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    Valium says it can't take competition like that much longer.
    With spokesmen like yourself? That's understandable. They obviously aren't paying you enough.

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  • molly bloom
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    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    You obviously recognize their handiwork being a master of their techniques.
    Valium says it can't take competition like that much longer.

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  • Ben Kenobi
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    Are you an agent of Induce-A-Coma, the insomnia specialists ?
    You obviously recognize their handiwork being a master of their techniques.

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  • Ben Kenobi
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    I've forgotten, how long before Ben gets to take the test to become a citizen of the Unitied States? Maybe we should wait until the INS tells him he's wrong.
    Anywhere around 8 years depending on whether or not the law changes in the meantime.

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  • molly bloom
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    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    Yeah, I score 100/100 on all the citizenship tests.
    How fascinating. Pity about those history exams though, confusing George III with his wife, endowing William III Orange with children and the Dutch with a kingdom in the 17th Century.

    Nuls points, Soeur Bendy.

    And I did score well on my SATs.
    How very interesting. How did you cope with 'preventation' (your word) of errors ?

    It's just going to take time like it took my uncle and cousins who are all American citizens.
    How very absorbing.



    Are you an agent of Induce-A-Coma, the insomnia specialists ?

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  • Ben Kenobi
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    I am particularly tickled that he thinks an act that defines who can be a "natural born citizen" really doesn't discuss natural born citizens
    I'm tickled that an act specifically titled the naturalization act is considered not to create naturalized citizens. And, which, btw, doesn't actually apply to Cruz. By that law, Cruz is still ineligible.

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  • Ben Kenobi
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    Have been born in the United States or certain territories or outlying possessions of the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States; OR
    had a parent or parents who were citizens at the time of your birth (if you were born abroad) and meet other requirements
    Which includes residency post majority. Cruz is a citizen because he had a mom who is a citizen and because he chose to return to the US to live there long enough to qualify. Had he remained in Canada his citizenship could have lapsed. .

    Naturalization only occurs if you don't become a citizen at birth. It's pretty clear.
    This statement appears nowhere in your source document. Cruz is a naturalized citizen. You cannot be a natural born citizen of more than one country. Cruz - due to being born in Canada is a natural born Canadian citizen, who possesses Canadian citizenship and is eligible to run for any public office there.

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  • Ben Kenobi
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    If there's an I.Q. or literacy test involved, never. PolyAmericans may start celebrating now, while PolyCanadians start petitioning their governments for the right to dump Sister Bendy in Fresh Kills or the Pacific Gyre.
    Yeah, I score 100/100 on all the citizenship tests. And I did score well on my SATs. It's just going to take time like it took my uncle and cousins who are all American citizens.

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  • molly bloom
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    Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
    To be fair that doesn't set him apart from a lot of history teachers.
    (Sister Bendy response) " You don't have a 'history' degree, so how do you know ?"

    Natural Born Citizens
    Ah he didn't get to watch that film when it came out, so he's in the dark about the plot.

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  • Imran Siddiqui
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    I am particularly tickled that he thinks an act that defines who can be a "natural born citizen" really doesn't discuss natural born citizens .

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  • regexcellent
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    To be fair that doesn't set him apart from a lot of history teachers.

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  • Ming
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    For supposedly being a history teacher, he sure gets a lot of facts wrong...

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  • molly bloom
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    Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
    I've forgotten, how long before Ben gets to take the test to become a citizen of the Unitied States? .
    If there's an I.Q. or literacy test involved, never. PolyAmericans may start celebrating now, while PolyCanadians start petitioning their governments for the right to dump Sister Bendy in Fresh Kills or the Pacific Gyre.

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