Should the Republican Party Bow Out of 2016?

[regexcellent]

The only people who care about those FOX Benghazi fantasies are the dumb ****s who will vote GOP without fail regardless.



Unless the GOP do a radical shift of approach, the demographics are absolutely horrific for them. Their numbers for 'minorities' are in the gutter, at a time when minorities are going to become majorities in many states in the not too distant future. Oh and they've also managed to turn away lots of women, whom last time I checked were also a majority. Not really smart policy.


Keep telling yourself that.

Oh hey it's Kentonio pretending to know things about American politics again! The growth of minorities won't be enough by 2016 to matter unless it's as close as last time (where, remember, the Democrats held on by the skin of their teeth). And for every point democrats are gaining among women, they are losing among men (who vote more), making that shift totally zero-sum.


Benghazi had a visible impact on Clinton's poll numbers. She went from somewhere north of 70% approval down to below 60% in a job where something like 90% approval is common. So no, it's not all about people who watch Fox News Channel. Maybe if our supposed British "conservative" got his information from something other than left-wing American blogs he would know this.

[DinoDoc]

Who doesn't like The Parts of Michigan?

I don't know what you are referring to.

[Ben Kenobi]

Unless the GOP do a radical shift of approach, the demographics are absolutely horrific for them.

Actually, the demographics aren't too bad. White liberals are pretty much driving themselves into extinction. No kids = no future.

[Ben Kenobi]

Don't be ****ing stupid.

What? It would - that's how Westminster works. If Supply fails - then there's a new round of elections.

[kentonio]

lol if you think Hillary can win in 2016 after the fiasco in Libya and her abysmal performance as secretary of state.

The only people who care about those FOX Benghazi fantasies are the dumb ****s who will vote GOP without fail regardless.

The Democratic circlejerk about the Republican party being finished ignores some very serious issues:
1. Unions are declining and that's draining tons of Democratic votes out of the Midwest
2. White people are voting more Republican and that's also draining votes out of the South and Midwest
3. There actually aren't very many good Democratic candidates; Hillary gets touted a lot based on her popularity as Secretary of State, which has declined a ton and Secretary of State popularity is always pretty high; there is a reason we don't have President Colin Powell.

Unless the GOP do a radical shift of approach, the demographics are absolutely horrific for them. Their numbers for 'minorities' are in the gutter, at a time when minorities are going to become majorities in many states in the not too distant future. Oh and they've also managed to turn away lots of women, whom last time I checked were also a majority. Not really smart policy.

And that's just for the President. Republicans will probably control the House until at least 2020, and have at least an even shot at taking the Senate in 2014.

Keep telling yourself that.

[kentonio]

Congress passed a budget. The Senate majority leader Harry Reid (Dem) refused to take it up for a vote. And yes - this would have triggered a non confidence motion and new elections if this were Westminster.

Don't be ****ing stupid.

[Wiglaf]

The 2008 election gave us Sarah Palin. That she's still politically relevant in the party

No she isn't, ******. I thought your Columbia Business School oath prohibited you from lying? What is the email address of the registrar I can complain to about this?

[Elok]

He was more disciplined during the primary but I take your point.

Who doesn't like The Parts of Michigan?

[regexcellent]

lol if you think Hillary can win in 2016 after the fiasco in Libya and her abysmal performance as secretary of state.

The Democratic circlejerk about the Republican party being finished ignores some very serious issues:
1. Unions are declining and that's draining tons of Democratic votes out of the Midwest
2. White people are voting more Republican and that's also draining votes out of the South and Midwest
3. There actually aren't very many good Democratic candidates; Hillary gets touted a lot based on her popularity as Secretary of State, which has declined a ton and Secretary of State popularity is always pretty high; there is a reason we don't have President Colin Powell.

And that's just for the President. Republicans will probably control the House until at least 2020, and have at least an even shot at taking the Senate in 2014.

[Nikolai]

If the republicans don't participate in the next presidental election, they're finished as a serious contender for presidency.

[Ben Kenobi]

He won the election with an economy in the ****ter. That's pretty damn impressive.

He only had to beat Romney. If republicans had nominated a competent candidate who actually had a personality - they would have won.

[DaShi]

You fool.

Yet you support my conclusion.

[Sava]

Republicans are such fail

[DinoDoc]

Romney was too gaff prone, which is VP territory.

He was more disciplined during the primary but I take your point.

[DaShi]

I thought Romney was a solid candidate at the time but hindsight has shown that how weak a candidate he was at least based on the weakness of his national campaign (Project Orca, seriously?) and the soft ground game he had. He also seemed more comfortable going on the offensive against his GOP primary opponents than he was wrt Obama even after the President's campaign accused him of being a murderer and a tax cheat.

I kind of wish Chris Christie had allowed himself to be drafted by people at the time who were disaffected with the field of contenders.

Romney was too gaff prone, which is VP territory.