The Tea Party is American Fascism.

[Dinner]

Just answer his question already or admit you're full of it and can't.

[Berzerker]

I did, and y'all are fine with liberal politicians punishing people for having obnoxious opinions

you're my heroes

[Aeson]

Urbanites are in the best possible situation.

If something horrible happens, economically, working together is going to be the key to survival... not hiding in a bunker.

I don't think you've ever lived in a rural community. Everyone knows everyone, and most are willing to lend a helping hand to their neighbor in a tough spot.

[Sava]

I did, and y'all are fine with liberal politicians punishing people for having obnoxious opinions

you're my heroes

How was the Chick Filet dip**** punished?

Please explain.

[Sava]

I don't think you've ever lived in a rural community. Everyone knows everyone, and most are willing to lend a helping hand to their neighbor in a tough spot.

Once those toothless hillbillies run out of water, they'll walk into the cities to get help.

[Sava]

It's like somebody told him it happened. He believes it. But can't provide a shred of evidence.

Because... it didn't happen.

Berz, you need serious help. You should be locked up.

[Aeson]

Once those toothless hillbillies run out of water, they'll walk into the cities to get help.

Almost everyone I knew in the rural communities I lived in had their own wells. Our well easily could have provided drinking water for hundreds of people, if not thousands. And our neighbors' wells could have done the same. In an extreme situation you'd have to convert over electric pumps to some other power source or type of pump, but that's not terribly difficult.

Food would be more difficult, depending on the timing of the year. But even then it's much better to be by (or be) the source than somewhere down the line hoping something makes it through.

[Sava]

I just came back from a trip to rural Michigan. Those mopes can barely survive even with modern civilization.

[Docfeelgood]

The Finest City in America. Technically the northwest corner of it ~2 miles from "The Jewel" and ~5 miles from where "The Surf Meets the Turf".

Seattle?
Beautiful place, last visited about 30yrs ago.

[Docfeelgood]

Once those toothless hillbillies run out of water, they'll walk into the cities to get help.

Do your hillbillies have wells? How do your people get water outside the cities?

[Docfeelgood]

Sava, store up a little food if possible. It won't hurt, besides it won't go to waste. I don't know what will happen by next week if the gov should default. Personally I don't think nothing will happen but it never hurts to be prepared.
if I did not live so far away you could come stay with us, when you're ready, should anything happen. You will always be welcome to stay as long as you like.

[Docfeelgood]

Correct me if I'm wrong...


Basically, as far as I can tell, DFG couldn't give a flying crap about society as a whole - or the US for that matter - as long as they're OK cos it won't affect them anyway...

Besides, what can we do about it? There's nothing I can do about the default, if it should happen.
" My glee " is I'm not worried if it should. The sun will rise and the earth will turn.

[Docfeelgood]

Love my country, not my government.

[PLATO]

Correct me if I'm wrong...

But all the Republicans in this thread are basically professing barely self contained glee about the prospect of a default so that they can go huntin' and all 'survival' cos they're alright Jack and **** the urbanites...

Basically, as far as I can tell, BK, PLATO() and DFG couldn't give a flying crap about society as a whole - or the US for that matter - as long as they're OK cos it won't affect them anyway...

Holy ****, you guys are ****ing nuts!

Didn't mean to sound that way. I have no desire for a default. Being in the mortgage biz makes me especially vulnerable to default reprecussions. My statement that I was "ready" in case of a real major meltdown is simply based on the lifestyle that is quite popular where I live. Most everybody hunts and fishes. There is very plentiful fresh water and hunting game. Most everybody knows where they would go and what they would do if a true emergency happens. NOONE expects to really have to do it. It is mainly a hold over type way of thought from the hyper patriotism of the area left over from the cold war. Oak Ridge is right here and we all know that is a target.

Anyway...before I digress to much. As I have repeatedly said. Default would be extremely bad for the economy, Compromise from all sides is the key. (I am glad I got a sad smiley face though when you thought I was a prepper. )

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

They are a group of radical extremists whose goal is to collapse the Federal government and institute a new order across the North American continent.

Mexicans? They'll be moved into death camps... along with anyone from Asia or the Middle East.

Blacks? Enslaved again.

Anyone who isn't White Anglo Saxon Protestant? The liberals will be rounded up and killed... so will the "moderate" people, formerly Republicans, who don't conform to their new ideology.

Catholics may be tolerated at first. But the Pope of Rome with his outspoken Christian economic agenda will be seen no different from the liberals.

"Fascism" gets thrown around a lot... mostly by them. But what is Fascism? Most idiotic right wingers don't know. They think it's the same as Communism. Basically, the government will be controlled by corporations. That's already occurring to some extent. But under Tea Party control, it will be more overt. The President will likely be selected from a crop of... well... Mitt Romney types. Corporate douchebags. Or perhaps men who failed in business and only managed to acquire wealth of their own through corrupt dealings... like George Bush.

After the cleansing of America, they will focus their attention on the world.

Trollish nonsense

But to the point of Fascism

Basically, the government will be controlled by corporations. That's already occurring to some extent.

You've gotten it inverted. It's not the elevation of corporations power over the government but moreso the elevation of government in order to collude with the allowable favored industries. Never forget which one is more powereful. In the facist structure, it is always the primacy of the state that is first and foremost. Given that fundamental test criteria, there is no way anyone could confuse an organization like the tea party who is adamanant about reducing the role of government to a facists position. Also describing GOP candidates such as Bush or Romney as tea party darlings is nonsensical as both were GOP establishment picks.

Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. Influenced by national syndicalism, the first fascist movements emerged in Italy around World War I, combining elements of left-wing politics with more typically right-wing positions, in opposition to communism, socialism, liberal democracy and, in some cases, traditional right-wing conservatism. Although fascism is usually placed on the far right on the traditional left–right spectrum, fascists themselves and some commentators have argued that the description is inadequate.[3][4]

Fascists sought to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that promoted the mass mobilization of the national community,[5][6] and were characterized by having a vanguard party that initiated a revolutionary political movement aiming to reorganize the nation along principles according to fascist ideology.[7] Hostile to liberal democracy, socialism, and communism, fascist movements shared certain common features, including the veneration of the state, a devotion to a strong leader, and an emphasis on ultranationalism and militarism. Fascism views political violence, war, and imperialism as a means to achieve national rejuvenation[5][8][9][10] and asserts that stronger nations have the right to expand their territory by displacing weaker nations.[11]

Fascist ideology consistently invokes the primacy of the state. Leaders such as Benito Mussolini in Italy and Adolf Hitler in Germany embodied the state and claimed indisputable power. Fascism borrowed theories and terminology from socialism but applied them to what it saw as the more significant conflict between nations and races rather than to class conflict, and focused on ending the divisions between classes within the nation.[12] It advocates a mixed economy, with the principal goal of achieving autarky to secure national self-sufficiency and independence through protectionist and interventionist economic policies.[13] Fascism supports what is sometimes called a Third Position between capitalism and Marxist socialism.[14]