Anyone else (possibly) getting a mandatory vacation come Tuesday?

[DinoDoc]

So what? The point is the legislation ****ing passed legally with 60 votes when only 50 (+1 for the VP) was needed.

Legally the bill should have started in the House rather than the Senate.

[Hauldren Collider]

Day 1 of ACA resulted in web site failures because they were too busy. Clearly the majority of people in the US do not want it.

This post is idiotic, particularly without knowing the actual number of people who accessed the sites.

[notyoueither]

So what? The point is the legislation ****ing passed legally with 60 votes when only 50 (+1 for the VP) was needed.

It means beware what people opposed to you are screaming in your face.

They could come back and bite you in the ass.

[Dinner]

BBC: What will furloughed federal workers do on their time off?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24339305

[dannubis]

It is slightly amusing to see the self proclaimed conservatives on this board squirm.

[kentonio]

Oh this is beautiful. FOX News wants you to know that this isn't a 'Shutdown' it's a 'Slimdown'.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4025738.html

[Sava]

Every three days, the shutdown costs the economy $32 billion.

Republicans hate America

[rah]

I wonder how that is calculated. Does that mean since it costs the economy 32 bil that the government saves 32 bil?
I only say this because I heard many different estimates this morning, and I'm sure they're all calculated differently depending on what you're trying to support.

[kentonio]

"In a democracy, hostage tactics are the last resort for those who can’t otherwise win their fights through elections, can’t win their fights in Congress, can’t win their fights for the Presidency, and can’t win their fights in Courts," Warren said. "For this right-wing minority, hostage-taking is all they have left – a last gasp of those who cannot cope with the realities of our democracy."

[DinoDoc]

“No matter where the partisanship is, the failure is in people not bringing people together to get it done. My approach would be, as the executive, is to call in the leaders of the Congress, the legislature, whatever you’re dealing with and say that we’re not leaving this room until we fix this problem. Because I’m the boss, I’m in charge,” Christie said hours before the government shut down on Monday night after Congress failed to reach a deal on funding. …

“When you’re the executive, if you’re waiting for leadership from the legislative branch of government … you’re going to be waiting forever,” Christie said. “While there’s blame to go around for the Republicans in the House for not coming to consensus even amongst themselves … and the Democrats in the Senate for not looking for ways to try to compromise with the Republicans in the House, there’s also blame that goes onto the president as well.”

[Hauldren Collider]

It's always been the President's job to marshall congress and Obama hasn't even tried.

[kentonio]

He's desperately trying to win back some Republican love before '16 comes around.

[Hauldren Collider]

He's desperately trying to win back some Republican love before '16 comes around.

Don't be stupid. Having to negotiate with an opponent legislature is what he's had to do for his entire time as governor of New Jersey.

[Sava]

I wonder how that is calculated. Does that mean since it costs the economy 32 bil that the government saves 32 bil?
I only say this because I heard many different estimates this morning, and I'm sure they're all calculated differently depending on what you're trying to support.

Who knows. It's a fun fact. I suspect the best anyone could do is offer an estimate.

[Sava]

It's always been the President's job to marshall congress and Obama hasn't even tried.

This talking point is hilarious. Do people tell you these things? Do you overhear them? Do you read them on blogs?

I really would like to know. God help you if you "figure" them out all by your lonesome.