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    Wonder what the environmental impact of this will be?


    Japan's nuclear watchdog has said the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant is facing a new "emergency" caused by a build-up of radioactive groundwater.

    A barrier built to contain the water has already been breached, the Nuclear Regulatory Authority warned.

    This means the amount of contaminated water seeping into the Pacific Ocean could accelerate rapidly, it said.

    There has been spate of water leaks and power failures at the plant, devastated by the 2011 earthquake and tsunami.

    Its operator, Tokyo Electric Power Company (Tepco), has been criticised heavily for its lack of transparency over the leaks.


    Tepco admitted for the first time last month that radioactive groundwater had breached an underground barrier and been leaking into the sea, but said it was taking steps to prevent it.

    However, the head of a Nuclear Regulatory Authority task force, Shinji Kinjo, told the Reuters news agency on Monday that the countermeasures were only a temporary solution.

    Tepco's "sense of crisis is weak," Mr Kinjo said. "This is why you can't just leave it up to Tepco alone"

    "Right now, we have an emergency," he added.

    If the underground barrier is breached, the watchdog warns, the water could start to seep through shallower areas of earth.

    Once it reaches the surface, it could start to flow "extremely fast", says Mr Kinjo.

    Contaminated water could rise to the ground's surface within three weeks, the Asahi newspaper predicted on Saturday.

    The contaminated water is thought to have come from the 400 tonnes of groundwater pumped into the plant every day to cool the reactors.


    Tepco admitted on Friday that a cumulative 20 trillion to 40 trillion becquerels of radioactive tritium may have leaked into the sea since the disaster.

    It has been clear for months now that the operators of the Fukushima plant are in deep trouble, says the BBC's Rupert Wingfield-Hayes.

    The only course of action, he continues, is to pump water out. But this has to be stored, and more than 1,000 giant holding tanks surrounding the plant are nearly all full, he adds.

    Tepco said on Monday it plans to start pumping out a further 100 tonnes of groundwater a day.
    Japan's nuclear watchdog says the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant is facing a new "emergency" caused by a build-up of radioactive groundwater.
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    This should be in the "Thread to document giant monster attacks on Tokyo as they happen" thread.
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    • #3
      Seriously though, there's a lot more coming, from what I've seen in the Japanese press in recent weeks.
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      • #4
        This is infuriating.

        Nuclear power would be as close to "the magic bullet" we could get for our energy needs: powerful, abundant, clean. However, if the oversight is lacking, the consequences can be horrific.

        If we had an industry and a government we could trust, we wouldn't have to worry about energy ever again.
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        • #5
          What exactly do you do with 100 tonnes of radioactive water each day?
          "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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          • #6
            Depends on what's causing the radioactivity, I suppose. If it's dissolved solids, you might be able to let it evaporate and collect the residue.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
              This is infuriating.

              Nuclear power would be as close to "the magic bullet" we could get for our energy needs: powerful, abundant, clean. However, if the oversight is lacking, the consequences can be horrific.

              If we had an industry and a government we could trust, we wouldn't have to worry about energy ever again.
              That's a mighty 'if' there. Sigh.

              I vote for 'put the nuclear plant on a spaceship and beam the power back down'. That never goes wrong, right?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
                This is infuriating.

                Nuclear power would be as close to "the magic bullet" we could get for our energy needs: powerful, abundant, clean. However, if the oversight is lacking, the consequences can be horrific.

                If we had an industry and a government we could trust, we wouldn't have to worry about energy ever again.
                From my perspective, this is still the only sane option, except that we should be building them relatively remotely and with 2010 tech (or upgrading the existing ones), and that's that. In the end, this cost a lot - ie evacuation etc, but really nothing comparing to the effects of energy politics in general.
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                • #9
                  Small, modular reactors, located in rural or semi rural areas, will be the wave of the future for fission.
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                  • #10
                    What about putting it on Bikini Atoll?

                    More seriously, the reason they're remote-but-not-THAT-remote is transferring power over long distances is costly and inefficient - you lose more power the longer your lines are. Combine that in the US with having local-ish power companies in charge of things (in part due to history, like the early 1930s type history, encouraging/requiring local power companies) means each power company wanted to do its own nuclear reactor to avoid paying fees to the other ones, and you have lots of plants that are remote-but-not-that-remote.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by PLATO View Post
                      What exactly do you do with 100 tonnes of radioactive water each day?
                      100 tonnes of water is 100 cubic meters - how much water do a olympic swim stadion contain ? How much water is there in the pacific ocean ?

                      This is a panic scenario that doesn't have any impact at all.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PLATO View Post
                        Small, modular reactors, located in rural or semi rural areas, will be the wave of the future for fission.
                        Let's hope so, as the oil/natural gas industries in conjunction with vocal minority of econuts (there to be exploited by the former) need to be overcome for this to become reality.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
                          This is infuriating.

                          Nuclear power would be as close to "the magic bullet" we could get for our energy needs: powerful, abundant, clean. However, if the oversight is lacking, the consequences can be horrific.

                          If we had an industry and a government we could trust, we wouldn't have to worry about energy ever again.
                          US nuclear energy is incredibly safe, and our nuclear power plants are tightly regulated and well-staffed. Perhaps not in Japan, but I think we should definitely be expanding our nuclear infrastructure here in the US.

                          Plus, modern power plants would be even safer than the ones we are currently running.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by PLATO View Post
                            What exactly do you do with 100 tonnes of radioactive water each day?
                            Flush it out to sea!
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                            • #15
                              The thing about a lot of these nuclear accidents: A lot of them are human error or clear lack of foresight about the location of the plant itself.
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