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  • Thank you Venezuela

    For reminding us what planned economy is like.

    BBC News:

    Venezuela ends toilet paper shortage

    Venezuela's National Assembly has backed plans to import 39 million rolls of toilet paper, in an effort to relieve a chronic shortage.

    Lawmakers voted to approve a $79m credit for the country's ministry of commerce, which will also be used to buy toothpaste and soap.

    The products are currently in short supply in Venezuelan shops.

    The oil-rich nation relies on imports, but currency controls have restricted its ability to pay for foreign goods.

    President Nicolas Maduro, who won a narrow majority in April's presidential elections, maintains that the country's periodic shortages of basic goods are the result of a conspiracy by the opposition and rich sectors of society.

    Mr Maduro has vowed to uphold the legacy of his late predecessor, Hugo Chavez, whose "21st-Century socialism" involved sweeping nationalisation and extensive social programmes.

    But analysts say that the government's attempts to impose state control on the economy have created huge imbalances that have led to the shortages.

    "Price controls, for example, act as a disincentive to local producers, forcing them to cut output," says the survey organisation Consensus Economics.

    "The resulting scarcity forces up inflation, defeating the entire purpose of price controls in the first place."

    Venezuela's inflation is the highest in Latin America and is currently running at about 25%.

    The currency, the bolivar, has been devalued repeatedly in recent years, most recently by 32% in February.
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    • #3
      so the great cornholio is running things down there now?

      I NEED TP
      TP FOR MY BUNGHOLE
      To us, it is the BEAST.

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      • #4
        Hey!!!

        Thank you Great Depression for reminding us what a market economy is like.

        LOL
        In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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        • #5
          Unions on strike are bad too :



          Danes wipe out Nordic toilet paper shortage

          Danes rushed emergency relief to their Nordic siblings in Norway on Friday to help wipe out a toilet paper shortage. A strike by truckers in Norway has been escalating since it began on March 21, leaving some food stores short of certain products. Even though toilet paper had not been among the items the industry expected to dry up, nervous Norwegians hoarded anyway, leaving shelves bare in some stores.

          Denmark’s P3 radio station got wind of the Norwegians’ dilemma and broadcast a humorous appeal to listeners for contributions of toilet paper to be shipped to their Nordic neighbors.

          The Danes were inspired by Norwegians’ playful helpfulness when their own strike several years ago caused a run on baking yeast.

          “It was a sort of thanks and in the spirit of brotherhood,” joked Morten Resen, a host of Danish radio’s humor program said.

          The shipment of at least 1,000 rolls of toilet paper arrived in the Norwegian capital on Friday, and were quickly distributed on a downtown street to Norwegians who didn’t mind being the butt of a Danish prank. —AP
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Oncle Boris View Post
            Hey!!!

            Thank you Great Depression for reminding us what a market economy is like.

            LOL
            At least the stores had toilet paper during the Depression.

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            • #7
              how do you know?
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sava View Post
                how do you know?
                I'm 300 years old.

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                • #9
                  moisturizers?
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #10
                    Doesn't matter much that the stores are filled with goods if noone can afford them.

                    Of course, they could have "socialized" it, but then they'll probably have been shot by the state
                    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                    Steven Weinberg

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                    • #11
                      It's not a planned economy so much a Chavez destroyed the real economy with price controls as a populist move but also to destroy the opposition who were mostly business owners. In Chavez's head no businesses = good for him even if it meant terrible things for the country. That's a problem with one megalomaniac though and, no, the country never had a planned economy. I don't even like the idea of a planned economy but let's be honest and call things what they are.
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                      • #12
                        So it's an unplanned economy?

                        I'm pretty sure it qualifies as 'planned economy' at least to some degree, even if it's very badly done.
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                        • #13
                          In my mind a planned economy is like the old Soviet economy where EVERY decision is made by the state and carried out via state owned companies. That's clearly not Venezuela where the vast, vast majority of the economy is private.
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                          • #14
                            Price controls are effectively planned economy - worse, in fact, because at least in a monopolistic planned economy you have the benefits of a monopoly.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                              In my mind a planned economy is like the old Soviet economy where EVERY decision is made by the state and carried out via state owned companies. That's clearly not Venezuela where the vast, vast majority of the economy is private.

                              I'm sure having Stalin make the decisions was much better than Chavez. Oh wait...
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