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How Long Until Israel and Syria Engage?
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Israel might not be able to stay out of it, for instance because Assad transfers more weapons to Hezbollah. He also try to pull the same trick Saddam tried in the Gulf War.Originally posted by Alexander's Horse View PostAnother reason for Israel not to intervene - it would be Lebanon 1982 all over again. It would probably eventually end the civil war by uniting the factions against the Israeli invader, the worst possible outcome for Israel. The 1982 invasion was disaster for Israel, it turned Western opinion against the Jewish state for the first time and Israel has never really recovered from it in terms of PR/international image.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.
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I'm talking about public opinion HC. Who listens to leftwing academics? I was at university at the time and remember very well how public opinion turned against Israel. Before that it was 90% positive across most of the western world, especially in the wake of Munich, after the invasion of Lebanon public support for Israel has never reached those levels since. It also legitimated the PLO who gained enormous sympathy after the Sabra and Shatilla massacre which was perpetrated by Israel's christian allies while the IDF allegedly looked the other way from their positions overlooking Beirut. Then the marines lost 240 to a suicide bombing, one of the first, which chilled support for Israel, as a dangerous wide boy that would entangle the US, even on the right. You still hear echoes of that thinking in the debate over Iran's nuclear facilities, the note of caution that is there about using the IDF. As I say, a disaster for Israel, which before had always been seen as a victim of Arab aggression before those events.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostI don't agree with this. The academic lefties in the US always hated Israel, as did much of Europe. France never had much love for the Jewish state and neither did Britain.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?
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That's not the point. The missiles strikes were a foolhardy attempt by Saddam to turn the Arab world to his side.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostIsrael's missile defense is much better now. I bet they can shoot down anything Assad throws at them.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.
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Not blindingly approving everything Israël does does not hate make.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostI don't agree with this. The academic lefties in the US always hated Israel, as did much of Europe. France never had much love for the Jewish state and neither did Britain."Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."
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Oink? I don't have ads like that.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.
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I hadn't logged in yet.Originally posted by Colon™ View PostOink? I don't have ads like that.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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Damn you I was going for the "I didn't know they were even dating." reply.Originally posted by Elok View PostI think they'll move in together first."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
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If by this you mean didn't always let Israeli foreign policy determine what they did on the world stage, then you'd be correct. Otherwise, it's the usual H.C. gar-bahj.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostFrance never had much love for the Jewish state and neither did Britain.
Thanks in great part to the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. - one of which was quite happy to destabilise Mossadegh's Iran and the elected democratic government of Guatemala, and the other to invade and occupy Hungary- in the same year.Yeah, great example--they worked together that one time and it failed horribly.
That's the ripe stench of hypocrisy you can smell rising from the annals of history...Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915
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