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    “Can I resell my MP3s?” redux—federal judge says no
    In Capitol Records v. ReDigi, the Boston digital music startup loses.

    by Cyrus Farivar - Apr 1 2013, 2:45pm EDT
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    For years, many a music fan has wondered what we first posited back in 2008: “Can I resell my MP3s?”

    After all, as we’ve pointed out in the past, nearly all digital good sales are really licenses rather than sales as conventionally understood. The question here is, can such a license be bought and sold to other users?

    On Saturday, a federal court in New York ruled in summary judgment within the case of Capitol Records v. ReDigi. The court decided that no, users do not have the right to resell digital music files, as doing so violates existing copyright law. ReDigi, the judge found, is also liable for secondary copyright infringement and likely will have to pay damages. The judge wrote:

    Courts have consistently held that the unauthorized duplication of digital music files over the Internet infringes a copyright owner’s exclusive right to reproduce. See, e.g., A&M Records, Inc. v. Napster, Inc., 239 F.3d 1004, 1014 (9th Cir. 2001). However, courts have not previously addressed whether the unauthorized transfer of a digital music file over the Internet—where only one file exists before and after the transfer—constitutes reproduction within the meaning of the Copyright Act. The Court holds that it does.

    Last year, the judge in the case, Richard Sullivan, denied a motion that would have shuttered ReDigi. The Boston-based music startup did not immediately respond to Ars' request for comment. The company has not indicated whether it plans to appeal the decision.

    ReDigi argued that it was protected both by fair use and by the first sale doctrine, which allows for a good to be resold. Recently, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of first sale rights, protecting the rights of a used book vendor to import cheaper textbooks from Thailand to the United States. But here, the judge disagreed with ReDigi's premise:

    Here, a ReDigi user owns the phonorecord that was created when she purchased and downloaded a song from iTunes to her hard disk. But to sell that song on ReDigi, she must produce a new phonorecord on the ReDigi server. Because it is therefore impossible for the user to sell her “particular” phonorecord on ReDigi, the first sale statute cannot provide a defense. Put another way, the first sale defense is limited to material items, like records, that the copyright owner put into the stream of commerce. Here, ReDigi is not distributing such material items; rather, it is distributing reproductions of the copyrighted code embedded in new material objects, namely, the ReDigi server in Arizona and its users’ hard drives. The first sale defense does not cover this any more than it covered the sale of cassette recordings of vinyl records in a bygone era.

    Sorry, Oerdin. You'll probably have to go back to the piratebay or something for them now.
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    Oh, look, another judge who doesn't understand how a computer works. I'm shocked.
    "In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, Hyperion

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    • #3
      How does he not understand how a computer works? Unless there is more to the article not linked.
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
        How does he not understand how a computer works? Unless there is more to the article not linked.
        Here ya go.
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        • #5
          Huh?
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
            How does he not understand how a computer works? Unless there is more to the article not linked.
            Here, a ReDigi user owns the phonorecord that was created when she purchased and downloaded a song from iTunes to her hard disk. But to sell that song on ReDigi, she must produce a new phonorecord on the ReDigi server. Because it is therefore impossible for the user to sell her “particular” phonorecord on ReDigi, the first sale statute cannot provide a defense.
            The entire argument that a bitstream is a unique and singular entity is absurd. It is replicated repeatedly, in part and in whole, during the standard transmission and playback of the file. If a license only applies to a particularly set of bits then every playback is a license violation as it transfers from storage to RAM. Every server backup or restore is a violation, etc. The "unique bits" interpretation of digital IP is absurd.

            On the other hand, if this argument is followed and a particular set of bits on a hard drive is labeled as a singular entity then all you have to do to reinstate first sale is ensure that you sell a link to a file that only a particular person can access instead of copying the new file to another location in the server's file system...which I'm pretty sure RIAA would have certain objections to and is still absurd even if they didn't.

            There is no interpretation of the way a computer works that allows the judge's argument to be internally self-consistent.
            "In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, Hyperion

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            • #7
              He is applying the statute. The US Copyright Act indicates that an mp3 file on a computer is considered a phonorecord.
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #8
                So...if iTunes syncs your MP3 file to your iPod you are infringing copy right?
                You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                • #9
                  I don't use pirate bay any more as the RIAA and MPAA set up fake torrents and then report your IP Address back to your ISP. It's better to use a meta search and avoid the Pirate Bay.

                  Here's a good meta search engine for torrents: http://torrentz.eu/
                  Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Krill View Post
                    So...if iTunes syncs your MP3 file to your iPod you are infringing copy right?
                    It seems that way which just goes to show why the current laws are all rubbish on this topic. There is no such thing as fair use any more according to the RIAA which is why I no longer purchase their products. They can go **** themselves.
                    Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Krill View Post
                      So...if iTunes syncs your MP3 file to your iPod you are infringing copy right?
                      In that case, I believe its gotten around by the content seller allowing you to do so, IIRC.
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                        Huh?
                        Was that not the opinion? I'm sorry if it wasn't. I got curious after your statement and went searching for what I could find and stumbled upon that and was hoping it was the opinion and you could translate it into English.
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                          He is applying the statute. The US Copyright Act indicates that an mp3 file on a computer is considered a phonorecord.
                          So why can't I sell my phonorecord to somebody else if I don't want it anymore?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                            In that case, I believe its gotten around by the content seller allowing you to do so, IIRC.
                            ...and I can backup that music to removable media...like a CD, an SD card?

                            Then is it illegal to sell that CD with the proviso that all former copies of the MP3 file are deleted? And if so, why? And what if the original downloaded file were saved to that removable media rather than a HDD?
                            You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                              Was that not the opinion? I'm sorry if it wasn't. I got curious after your statement and went searching for what I could find and stumbled upon that and was hoping it was the opinion and you could translate it into English.
                              You linked a 1 page denial of a preliminary injunction.
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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