Turkish Ambassador: Al-Qaeda not a terrorist organisation

[The Mad Monk]

Oh yes, because one minor official runs his mouth, the sky is falling.

A booger may be small and inconsequential, but if it's hanging off the tip of your nose, do you just leave it there?

[dannubis]

You have a bad habit of criticizing people for what they read as opposed to their actual points. You should probably stop doing that.

"Oh, your source is invalid because it's right wing!" Considering that you photocopy your opinions from Rachel ****ing Maddow, coming from you this is especially meaningless.

Consistency.

STFU.

[MichaeltheGreat]

A booger may be small and inconsequential, but if it's hanging off the tip of your nose, do you just leave it there?

It depends on whether it's accomplishing a useful purpose or not.

[Zevico]

Then what's the issue? When you have a real foreign policy official expressing those views directly on behalf of the Turkish government, please wake me.

Erdogan recently equated Zionism with racism. Ring any bells?
The American Ambassador to Turkey describes the FM as an Islamist in embassy cables per wiki leaks. Ring any bells?
The notion that an Ambassador is not a real official is a nonsense. A single such official in the American diplomatic corp would be a scandal. An Ambassador level appointment would lead to impeachment.
Turkey was a Westernised country with a Westernised political establishment once. Do you remember that?

A fart in a windstorm
Who cares?
and Who cares?

This is a non-analysis.

And if it gets too far out of hand, I'm sure the Turkish military will idly do nothing, as they've always been prone to do.

That time is over now. The Turkish military as a political force is near dead. Its secular generals are being summarily arrested and imprisoned. One was imprisoned for simply accusing the PM of selling out the country. Nowadays that's an offence against the State in Turkey.

See further Ergenekon.

http://www.silkroadstudies.org/new/docs/silkroadpapers/0908Ergenekon.pdf

Nowadays Turkey funds "NGOs" that have funny ways of leading assaults on Israeli military blockades.
Par for the course for what was once Israel's closest ally in the Middle East, right? Nothing unusual there?

[The Mad Monk]

It depends on whether it's accomplishing a useful purpose or not.

As you yourself said, it's a booger to Chad.

[MichaeltheGreat]

I don't know or care what Chad thinks of it. I know in the grand scheme of things from the US perspective, this is some minor tool who's mouth running really isn't worth much attention. Same way we don't pay a lot of attention to tools like Zhirinovsky. "You're either with us, or..." might have been a nice slogan for domestic consumption, but it's not real consistent with realpolitik. Third world goat****er little fish get away with things like that because we have much bigger fish to fry.

[The Mad Monk]

Wrong perspective. We're not the ones who need to replace him.

[Alexander's Horse]

al qaeda is an NGO

[Alexander's Horse]

Somehow. I would think even for Turkey, "Ambassador to Chad" is really not terribly far up the foreign policy hierarchy.

And most ambassadors are political plum jobs. All they have to do is not fart audibly at the state dinners and not wipe their noses with the host's napkins, and the real foreign policy work is done by professionals.

Probably not the sharpest pencil in the box if he got sent to Chad, you get sent to places like that for screwing up :0

But Turkey has a pretty good foreign service on the whole, often underrated.

The US is the only major country I know that posts Dufus as HOM. The DCM is usually the main man - or woman as the case may be in US missions.

[Lancer]

Oh yes, because one minor official runs his mouth, the sky is falling.

The Turkish sky should be falling on that one minor official. He should be having a hard time finding a job pumping gas right now. This made international news, yes? The Turks kept him and therefore they endorse the statement. So the international sky should fall on the Turks.

I'm sure there's back room discussions going on about this. Likely nothing will be done by NATO so the minor and major officials will be encouraged. Next thing the Turks will have "these aren't terrorists" training camps going under a NATO SAM umbrella.

The Turkey we knew and loved has evolved into the next Iran. Public sentiment is on the side of the terrorists, that's why the government does nothing. No point in upsetting the electorate.

[Alexander's Horse]

The Turks kept him and therefore they endorse the statement.

well no, in a situation like that you usually stand by your man until things settle down and then shuffle him off quietly later - see if he is still there in 6 months

I respect the Turks a lot - they live in a dangerous neighbourhood.

[Hauldren Collider]

Probably not the sharpest pencil in the box if he got sent to Chad, you get sent to places like that for screwing up :0

But Turkey has a pretty good foreign service on the whole, often underrated.

The US is the only major country I know that posts Dufus as HOM. The DCM is usually the main man - or woman as the case may be in US missions.

Ambassador positions in the US are often given to political donors. It's rather unfortunate. Apparently something like 80%? of Obama's ambassadors were major campaign contributors. "Hope and change!"

Then again, places like China and Russia don't usually get idiots as their ambassadors, for instance John Huntsman was our ambassador to China for a while.

[MichaeltheGreat]

The Turkish sky should be falling on that one minor official. He should be having a hard time finding a job pumping gas right now. This made international news, yes? The Turks kept him and therefore they endorse the statement. So the international sky should fall on the Turks.

I'm sure there's back room discussions going on about this. Likely nothing will be done by NATO so the minor and major officials will be encouraged. Next thing the Turks will have "these aren't terrorists" training camps going under a NATO SAM umbrella.

The Turkey we knew and loved has evolved into the next Iran. Public sentiment is on the side of the terrorists, that's why the government does nothing. No point in upsetting the electorate.

This is one guy in a third world ****hole running his mouth. One of the Kardashians farts, it makes "international news" If we had our panties in a bunch during the cold war like some people here, we'd have had World War 3 on a weekly basis.

Oh, North Korea made another video where they overran Seoul in 3 days and took 150k American hostages. Guess since they endorsed that we should start a war ourselves over it.

[Imran Siddiqui]

This made international news, yes?

Why don't you try Googling "Turkish Ambassador to Chad". There is barely anything out there.

[DaShi]

This is one guy in a third world ****hole running his mouth. One of the Kardashians farts, it makes "international news" If we had our panties in a bunch during the cold war like some people here, we'd have had World War 3 on a weekly basis.

Oh, North Korea made another video where they overran Seoul in 3 days and took 150k American hostages. Guess since they endorsed that we should start a war ourselves over it.

A Chinese general threatened to nuke Japan. A Vietnamese general praised North Korea's foreign diplomacy.

The whole world is in panic now! :crazy: