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    An Israeli government official has acknowledged that a number of Ethiopian women who were immigrating to Israel were injected with a long-acting contraceptive without understanding the consequences of the treatment.

    Haaretz reports that Health Ministry Director General Prof. Ron Gamzu banned Israel's health maintenance organizations from injecting Ethiopian women with the contraceptive Depo-Provera "if for any reason there is concern that they might not understand the ramifications of the treatment.”

    Reports of forced birth control shots have been around for years, but government officials had always denied the practice. A documentary that aired in December on Israel's Educational Network also shed new light on the reports.

    Haaretz wrote in December that 35 Ethiopian women who immigrated to Israel eight years ago claimed on the show "Vacuum" that, as they understood, they would not be allowed to move to Israel unless they agreed to the Depo-Provera shots.

    "We said we won't have the shot," recounted one of the women, according to Haaretz. "They told us, if you don't you won't go to Israel. And also you won't be allowed into the Joint (American Joint Distribution Committee) office, you won't get aid or medical care. We were afraid ... We didn't have a choice.
    Without them and their aid we couldn't leave there. So we accepted the injection. It was only with their permission that we were allowed to leave."

    Some of the women didn't know the shots contained contraceptives, the Times of Israel added, but instead thought they were vaccinations. Others said they kept receving the shots once in Israel, even after reporting side effects such as headaches and abdominal pains.

    Efrat Yardai explains in an op-ed for Haaretz that Depo-Provera is an extremely intrusive drug and is usually prescribed for "women who are institutionalized or developmentally disabled."

    "Depo-Provera has a shameful history," he writes.

    According to a report by the Isha L'Isha organization, the injections were given to women between 1967 and 1978 as part of an experiment that took place in the U.S. state of Georgia on 13,000 impoverished women, half of whom were black. Many of them were unaware that the injections were part of an experiment being conducted on their bodies. Some of the women became sick and a few even died during the experiment.

    According to The Independent, nearly 100,000 Ethiopian Jews have moved to Israel since the 1980s, when the first airlifts brought Jews from Ethiopia to Israel. Yet the group has been met with skepticism in Israel society, and is often discriminated against. Many Ethiopian Jews have spent time in transit camps or were forced to live in absorption centers in Israel to "adjust to society." They face widespread discrimination in the job market and the educational system.

    "This is about reducing the number of births in a community that is black and mostly poor," Hevda Eyal, author of the report "By Women to Women," told The National, referring to the birth control shots.

    According to a 2010 report, a majority of the prescriptions of Depra-Provera written by Israeli doctors over the past few years were for Ethiopian women. "Figures show that 57 percent of Depo Provera users in Israel are Ethiopian, even though the community accounts for less than two percent of the total population," The National explains.

    The Times of Israel details a nurse -- captured by a hidden camera in a health clinic -- telling an Ethiopian woman that the shot is given to Ethiopian immigrants because, "they forget, they don’t understand, and it’s hard to explain to them, so it’s best that they receive a shot once every three months … basically they don’t understand anything."

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    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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    • #3
      Surprising how little coverage there has been of this story. I think a lot of the networks are running scared, particularly in the light of this-

      Rupert Murdoch has apologised for a "grotesque, offensive cartoon" printed in the Sunday Times that has led to complaints of anti-Semitism.

      The cartoon, by Gerald Scarfe, appears to depict Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu building a brick wall containing the blood and limbs of Palestinians.

      It has the text: "Israeli elections. Will cementing peace continue?"

      The Board of Deputies of British Jews says it has complained to the Press Complaints Commission.

      It said the cartoon was "shockingly reminiscent of the blood libel imagery more usually found in parts of the virulently anti-Semitic Arab press."

      It added: "Its use is all the more disgusting on Holocaust Memorial Day, given the similar tropes levelled against Jews by the Nazis."

      Mr Murdoch wrote in a tweet: "Gerald Scarfe has never reflected the opinions of the Sunday Times. Nevertheless, we owe major apology for grotesque, offensive cartoon."

      The paper's acting editor, Martin Ivans, said in a statement that insulting the memory of Holocaust victims was "the last thing I or anyone connected with the Sunday Times would countenance".

      "The paper has long written strongly in defence of Israel and its security concerns, as have I as a columnist," he said.

      "We are, however, reminded of the sensitivities in this area by the reaction to the cartoon, and I will, of course, bear them very carefully in mind in future."

      Veteran satirist Scarfe has been the Sunday Times' political cartoonist since 1967.
      Rupert Murdoch apologises for a "grotesque, offensive cartoon" by Gerald Scarfe in the Sunday Times, that brought complaints of anti-Semitism.


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      • #4
        Jews sterilizing Jews is not a form of racism.
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        • #5
          Okay, wtf?
          If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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          • #6
            Israeli hypocrisy, that.
            You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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            • #7
              My understanding is the women came in to the doctors complaining of heavy periods and menstrual bleeding and Depro is indeed a cheap and common solution to that just as all birth control pills can help reduce menstrual bleeding. I'm really not sure how anyone can not know that birth control prevents pregnancies though. If someone is that clueless then maybe they really aren't ready to be a parent. This smells like a law suit designed to fish for money because who can really be so dumb as to not understand that birth control controls births?
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              • #8
                Looks like this was not government policy. http://www.jpost.com/Health/Article.aspx?id=301273

                In the meantime, that cartoon is actually quite offensive.
                If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                • #9
                  Is it really any worse than this:

                  You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                  • #10
                    Uh, yes. The cartoon sucks though. If you have to label everything to the point of "RADICAL MUSLIMS", you are doing it wrong.
                    If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                    • #11
                      The main issue with the cartoon Bugs posted is that it is a political cartoon is that it is purely political but is being interpreted as racist because the country is majority Jewish. If it was any other country doing what Israel has done in the past 6 months then it wouldn't be viewed as racist. Which is why playing the racism card here is actually pretty stupid. That said, sure, find it offensive. So are some of your political views but you aren't forced to apologise for them.

                      The forced depo-provera shots in Ethiopian women OTOH is pretty abhorrent.
                      You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                        Uh, yes. The cartoon sucks though. If you have to label everything to the point of "RADICAL MUSLIMS", you are doing it wrong.
                        You have to do that because if you don't, then you'll be accused of Islamophobia and so on for failing to make the distinction.
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                        • #13
                          **** the cartoons.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat View Post
                            You have to do that because if you don't, then you'll be accused of Islamophobia and so on for failing to make the distinction.
                            The correct way to point out the irony would be to depict a radical muslim angrily declaring he will kill someone/firebomb something for suggesting he is violent. Which is something that has actually repeatedly happened.
                            If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                              Looks like this was not government policy. http://www.jpost.com/Health/Article.aspx?id=301273
                              Another reason HC loves immigrants apparently ... No need to look into the matter! Immigrants' claims can't be trusted while government bureaucracy is incapable of falsehood. But gosh golly it would be great if government weren't so hard on these poor people who just want to be our poorly paid servants!

                              Also, Ethiopians not intelligent enough to remember to take birth control pills (or understand anything about it) ... is not offensive? Would it be offensive if depicted in cartoon form?

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