Sick: Farrakhan invited to Chicago

[Zevico]

Yeah, it's amazing that we've never got around to putting the large local orthodox Jewish comminuty in my town into a ghetto considering how anti-semitic we all are.

Seriously dude, there's lots of anti-Israel sentiment in Europe, but not anti-semitism. I'm far more surprised when I hear people talking on US media about prominent people being Jewish. Over here it's not something people usually even notice, let alone feel any need to comment on.

Tell that to George Galloway, the man who got elected on the Islamist vote. Tell it to the London bombers. Tell it to Islam4UK, which praises Osama Bin Laden. Tell it to Holocaust deniers like the elected MP who heads the BNP.

[Kidlicious]

You are such a toolbag. Israel is a country that we support as part of our foreign policy. It's not even the biggest recipient of "foreign aid". In the meantime, rampant anti-semitism in Europe (Euros, don't even try to deny it) and elsewhere has led Israel to become isolated. If you think it's because of what they do to the Arabs, I encourage you to take a closer look at what the Arabs to do each other and appreciate the hypocrisy. And also consider how just about every human rights commission in the UN is not only rampantly anti-Israel, but led by Arab dictatorships and other unseemly folk.

But then again you're toolbag. All you can hear is the useful idiots in the Democratic party who shouted "booo" when Antonio Villagariosa said that it was Dem policy that Jerusalem was the capital of Israel, an obvious and undeniable truth.

The best part is that you started off by calling HIM a tool!

[Dinner]

Tell that to George Galloway, the man who got elected on the Islamist vote. Tell it to the London bombers. Tell it to Islam4UK, which praises Osama Bin Laden. Tell it to Holocaust deniers like the elected MP who heads the BNP.

I would have thought you'd like the BNP given.

[kentonio]

Tell that to George Galloway, the man who got elected on the Islamist vote. Tell it to the London bombers. Tell it to Islam4UK, which praises Osama Bin Laden. Tell it to Holocaust deniers like the elected MP who heads the BNP.

This is why I get so ****ing angry with you, summed up into a single post. Islam4UK are an irrelevant little group that no-one gives a **** about. The BNP are absolutely loathed and despised as the bigoted bunch of racists they are. Galloway is an obnoxious ***** who is generally recognized as being such by the vast majority of the population.

Why exactly would any of these irrelevant, tiny little examples mean anything in the broader context of UK attitudes towards Jews? Should we say that America is a hate mongering group of ****s because of Westboro, the Oklahoma bomber and the KKK? Do any of these actually mean a damn thing, or are they just stupid little extremists who everyone recognizes as such?

[C0ckney]

In the meantime, rampant anti-semitism in Europe (Euros, don't even try to deny it) and elsewhere has led Israel to become isolated.

[MrFun]

You are such a toolbag. Israel is a country that we support as part of our foreign policy. It's not even the biggest recipient of "foreign aid". In the meantime, rampant anti-semitism in Europe (Euros, don't even try to deny it) and elsewhere has led Israel to become isolated. If you think it's because of what they do to the Arabs, I encourage you to take a closer look at what the Arabs to do each other and appreciate the hypocrisy. And also consider how just about every human rights commission in the UN is not only rampantly anti-Israel, but led by Arab dictatorships and other unseemly folk.

But then again you're toolbag. All you can hear is the useful idiots in the Democratic party who shouted "booo" when Antonio Villagariosa said that it was Dem policy that Jerusalem was the capital of Israel, an obvious and undeniable truth.

First of all, I did not even watch any part of the DNC, just as I did not watch any part of the RNC. More show than substance in conventions, regardless of party.

Second, since when do you give a fvck about human rights?

[Zevico]

This is why I get so ****ing angry with you, summed up into a single post.

Your anger, discourtesy and use of swear words is not calculated to producing a rational discussion of the issues. Too often you pin your very moral core to your positions and become outraged when others disagree. Emotion blinds you.

Islam4UK are an irrelevant little group that no-one gives a **** about.

Yes, your apathy partly and that of the citizens of the UK explains why George Galloway won a seat in the British Parliament.

The BNP are absolutely loathed and despised as the bigoted bunch of racists they are. Galloway is an obnoxious ***** who is generally recognized as being such by the vast majority of the population.

Yes, except for the part that voted them into Parliament.


[q]Why exactly would any of these irrelevant, tiny little examples mean anything in the broader context of UK attitudes towards Jews? [q]
When they win seats they're relevant.

[q]
Should we say that America is a hate mongering group of ****s because of Westboro, the Oklahoma bomber and the KKK? Do any of these actually mean a damn thing, or are they just stupid little extremists who everyone recognizes as such?[/QUOTE]
Well, that's not what I'm saying about either the UK or the United States. I simply say that in society it has now become acceptable to cooperate with the KKK style and Westboro style groups for the Democrats. In the UK, Islam4UK gets airtime. Others get attention by blowing themselves up and taking hundreds of lives with them. They're
Not irrelevant: the London bombings showed that. It's fair to say that the Islamists who elected Galloway probably supported that. So too Islam4UK. You have a problem and you ignore it at your peril. The result of ignoring it too long is idiots like Emanuel decide it's too big to solve. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
See, by itself Nation of Islam and Islam4UK are weak. But in the UK, in the US, people are
Committing societal suicide by cooperating with and tolerating these groups-and dismissing them as irrelevant.

Ignorance of history and a profound disregard for its meaning and cosequences is the norm. And everyone will be the worse for it.

[C0ckney]

george galloway won his seat because the people in that constituancy thought he would best represent them. the respect party is a leftwing and socialist grouping, not an 'islamist' one. the name is an acronym for respect, equality, socialism, peace, environmentalism, community and trade unionism, which should give enough of a clue as to its politics. your ridiculous assertion that the people who voted for him supported the london bombings just shows how clueless you are.

the BNP do not have a seat in parliament and have never won one.

[Zevico]

[QUOTE=C0ckney;6150111]george galloway won his seat because the people in that constituancy thought he would best represent them. the respect party is a leftwing and socialist grouping, not an 'islamist' one. the name is an acronym for respect, equality, socialism, peace, environmentalism, community and trade unionism, which should give enough of a clue as to its politics. your ridiculous assertion that the people who voted for him supported the london bombings just shows how clueless you are.[quote]
Or not:

George Galloway is the founder and sole personality of a political party that he calls Respect. A veteran of the hard Left, he is the most prominent person in Britain to have made the transition from Communism to Islamism. Both ideologies are dictatorships in embryo and they can only be realized with violent persecution of non-believers. Their common aim here is twofold: the replacement of traditional Britain with their own political model, and the destruction of Israel. Whether as capitalists or Israelis, Jews are for it either way.*

Once a Labour member of parliament, Galloway was thrown out of the party and had to resign his seat. His enthusiasm for Stalin, Castro, and Chavez then seemed freakish. On the eve of the Iraq war he sat facing Saddam Hussein on a television program and praised his courage and “indefatigability,” an odd but carefully chosen word. As though out to create an even bigger shock, he called Bashar Assad “a breath of fresh air,” and “a man of reforming zeal.” He has made a point of leading or accompanying expeditions to Gaza to campaign on behalf of Hamas while it was firing rockets into Israel.*

Everything is different now because Galloway has won a by-election in the constituency of Bradford West, and re-enters parliament as an independent. The Labour Party has held this seat since 1974 and expected to do so again. But Muslims, mostly from Pakistan, have replaced the old Labour voters in huge numbers and they like Galloway’s Islamism. Presenting himself as a pseudo-Muslim, he talked about Allah and dropped Arabic words into his speeches, had posters put up in Urdu, had supporters speaking in praise of sharia, and criticized his Labour opponent, a Muslim by birth, for drinking alcohol. A landslide followed. Galloway had a majority of over 10,000 and a swing from Labour to Respect of 36 percent.

According to the media, this swing is due to the discontent of the working class who would like the Labour Party to be old-style Socialists. Class resentment is in order but Muslim separatism and racism is taboo. Reporting the news of the by-election, the BBC couldn’t bring itself even to utter the word Muslim. A senior Labour Party ex-minister could only say there was a local “problem” and refused to elaborate what that might be even though a crowd of young men with beards could be seen on television swarming round Galloway. Denial of the causes of his victory compounds its damage.

The country has previously experienced a movement that formed behind a single figure. In the 1930s Sir Oswald Mosley — also a renegade Labour member of parliament — founded the British Union of Fascists. His party worked for the replacement of traditional Britain with the Nazi model of his friends Hitler and Goebbels, and the elimination from society of Jews. Mosley was never elected to parliament as a fascist and took to the streets to get his way through violence. Galloway is the Oswald Mosley of today, a rabble-rouser every bit as ambitious, articulate and confident that Jew-hatred is central to his party. It is not yet clear whether Islamists will march and mobilize as Mosley’s Fascists did, but Galloway has given them the opportunity to be as ugly and divisive as their hateful predecessors.

http://www.nationalreview.com/david-pryce-jones/294973/galloway-way

the BNP do not have a seat in parliament and have never won one.

Except this one time, in Brussels...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jun/07/european-elections-manchester-liverpool

[C0ckney]

if you're using the national review as your source of information for fringe british political parties, then it's easy to see why you're so utterly ignorant about them.

from the wiki article about respect.

Respect was set up in January 2004, as a left-wing alternative to the three established parties - Labour, Conservatives and Liberal Democrats.[9]. The party was opposed to the War in Iraq and is opposed to the War in Afghanistan (2001-present). It seeks to "provide a broad-based and inclusive alternative to the parties of privatisation, war, and occupation"[10] and has a broad socialist agenda.

Some of the policies on which it campaigns include:
Renationalisation of the railways and other public services.
Opposition to the perceived privatisation of the National Health Service and the education system.
Opposition to university tuition fees.
Support for pensions increases linked to average earnings.
Raising the minimum wage to the European Union's "decency threshold" of £7.40 an hour.
An increase in income taxes on the rich to fund social welfare programmes and close the income gap.
The repeal of the industrial relations legislation brought in by the Conservative Party in the 1980s.
The defence of the rights of refugees and other asylum-seekers.
Opposition to the "stability pact" that the European Union seeks to impose on all those who join the euro.
Support for the Palestinian people and ending British support of various Israeli policies regarding the Palestinians.
Support for the British environmental movement.
Support mediation of the Kashmir issue between Pakistan and India, to resolve the dispute peacefully and with the involvement of the Kashmiris themselves.

.....

The party was originally launched by The Guardian journalist George Monbiot and Birmingham Stop the War Coalition chair Salma Yaqoob.

Except this one time, in Brussels...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...ster-liverpool

yes. they have two MEPs. so when you said this.

Tell it to Holocaust deniers like the elected MP who heads the BNP.

you showed us that you do not understand the difference between westminster and the european parliament (did you get that info from the national review as well?). again you can educate yourself with wiki.

[Zevico]

you showed us that you do not understand the difference between westminster and the european parliament (did you get that info from the national review as well?). again you can educate yourself with wiki.

I knew, I just didn't write it in the post. There's only so much you can think of and write in one go given time constraints. MEP is the correct usage. So what?

[Zevico]

if you're using the national review as your source of information for fringe british political parties, then it's easy to see why you're so utterly ignorant about them.

These are assertions of fact made by a single individual, David Pryce Jones. They either occurred or they did not. Which of the following is untrue?

Everything is different now because Galloway has won a by-election in the constituency of Bradford West, and re-enters parliament as an independent. The Labour Party has held this seat since 1974 and expected to do so again. But Muslims, mostly from Pakistan, have replaced the old Labour voters in huge numbers and they like Galloway’s Islamism. Presenting himself as a pseudo-Muslim, he talked about Allah and dropped Arabic words into his speeches, had posters put up in Urdu, had supporters speaking in praise of sharia, and criticized his Labour opponent, a Muslim by birth, for drinking alcohol. A landslide followed. Galloway had a majority of over 10,000 and a swing from Labour to Respect of 36 percent.

[C0ckney]

you showed us that you do not understand the difference between westminster and the european parliament (did you get that info from the national review as well?). again you can educate yourself with wiki.

I knew, I just didn't write it in the post. There's only so much you can think of and write in one go given time constraints. MEP is the correct usage. So what?

oh i see, so you couldn't write the 'E' in MEP because of time constraints.

These are assertions of fact made by a single individual, David Pryce Jones. They either occurred or they did not. Which of the following is untrue?

considering everything else he wrote in the article is either a misrepresentation, exaggeration, conspiracy theory or just a plain old falsehood, why should anyone take anything he has to say seriously?

i will say though that it is hilarious to suggest that a white man, born and raised catholic, and who now refuses to talk about his religious beliefs at all in public managed to defeat a professed muslim of pakistani extraction in an election based on 'islamism'.

[kentonio]

Your anger, discourtesy and use of swear words is not calculated to producing a rational discussion of the issues. Too often you pin your very moral core to your positions and become outraged when others disagree. Emotion blinds you.

Something about stupid bigots just gets to me, call me crazy.

Well, that's not what I'm saying about either the UK or the United States. I simply say that in society it has now become acceptable to cooperate with the KKK style and Westboro style groups for the Democrats.

Except that it hasn't.

In the UK, Islam4UK gets airtime.

Yes, they get airtime so people can go 'Hey look at what those wackos said now'.

Others get attention by blowing themselves up and taking hundreds of lives with them. They'reNot irrelevant: the London bombings showed that.

Why don't you just say you think all muslims are terrorists and be done with it?

It's fair to say that the Islamists who elected Galloway probably supported that.

Yes I'm sure the British muslim citizens who voted for Galloway were all cheering when terrorists started setting off bombs in their country. You despicable little man.

C0ckney has already pointed out several examples of you being ill informed or simply wrong on this subject. Maybe you should try taking a break from your hate sites for a while and actually find out something about the world before you insist on continuing to pontificate about it. Plus it really, honestly, truly does make you sound like a racist wanker.

[Asher]

The following are truths:

1) Israel deserves no foreign aid, nor does Palestine
2) Zevico should move to Israel already
3) America should stop spending billions on Israel and consider taking care of its own citizens