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  • #76
    Perhaps religion is just evolving.
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    • #77
      if you want to beleive in evolution, look here

      Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

      Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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      • #78
        Originally posted by DaShi View Post
        Perhaps religion is just evolving.
        Some religions are evolving ... others seem to prefer to stay living fossiles
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        • #79
          I got more thanks than you, that is evolution
          Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

          Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
            An omnipotent God is the best explaination for existence.
            No it's not. Even if we decide there's an omnipotent God, we're left with no explanation of why an omnipotent God exists.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by gribbler View Post
              No it's not. Even if we decide there's an omnipotent God, we're left with no explanation of why an omnipotent God exists.
              And who created him
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              • #82
                catholicism solved that - mysteries beyond human grasp
                Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                  No it's not. Even if we decide there's an omnipotent God, we're left with no explanation of why an omnipotent God exists.
                  I could as much say: Even if we decide there's evolution, we're left with no explanation of why a big bang occured.
                  The fact that the answer to our first question leads to a new question, doesn't make the first answer wrong.
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                  • #84
                    Exactly. Where did the elements for a big bang come from? The show stopper question. "Uh.Uh."
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Robert Plomp View Post
                      I could as much say: Even if we decide there's evolution, we're left with no explanation of why a big bang occured.
                      The fact that the answer to our first question leads to a new question, doesn't make the first answer wrong.
                      It's not a proper analogy. Evolution does not require the big bang theory (or any other specific theory of how the universe came to be) to be verifiable or complete. It only requires the interpretations of the fossil record to have been correct. (Which seems extremely likely to be the case in general.)

                      "God did it" requires itself to be verifiable, which it isn't, and thus is a whole other ballgame.

                      I think you are trying for a different analogy along the lines of, "if the big bang (or whatever other theory you like) is why the universe is here, what caused it?" That would be a valid analogy to "if God created the universe, what created God?" It doesn't prove your point though, since science's current answer is "we don't know yet", not to assume an answer. Again, a whole other ballgame from "God did it".

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                      • #86
                        What the Bible says is that He created man in his own image, Adam. IF there were other things going on before, that's fine and who really gives a rat's ass anyway?
                        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                        • #87
                          I sure don't
                          Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                          Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                            It's not a proper analogy. Evolution does not require the big bang theory (or any other specific theory of how the universe came to be) to be verifiable or complete. It only requires the interpretations of the fossil record to have been correct. (Which seems extremely likely to be the case in general.)

                            "God did it" requires itself to be verifiable, which it isn't, and thus is a whole other ballgame.

                            I think you are trying for a different analogy along the lines of, "if the big bang (or whatever other theory you like) is why the universe is here, what caused it?" That would be a valid analogy to "if God created the universe, what created God?" It doesn't prove your point though, since science's current answer is "we don't know yet", not to assume an answer. Again, a whole other ballgame from "God did it".
                            If God is omnipotent he doesn't have to have been created. Science assumes that everything is created, which doesn't make sense. Something has to have created everything.
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                              No it's not. Even if we decide there's an omnipotent God, we're left with no explanation of why an omnipotent God exists.

                              Because you are ignorant of the nature of omnipotent beings.
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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Robert Plomp View Post
                                The question of existance of anything is far more interesting then the question of how one existing thing evolved into another existing thing.

                                No, I phrased that wrong, not the question of existing is most interesting.
                                Most interesting is imho the question how it is possible that there is space/room in which something could start to exist at all.
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