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  • This Should Make Kentonio Happy (Funeral Picketing)

    Originally posted by kentonio View Post
    That's a coincidence, I'm proud to be British. The idea of it being enshrined in law that people can picket funerals brandishing hate signs sickens me.


    Well...

    Legislation inspired by Frankfort teen to limit military funeral protests clears Congress

    Matthew Stone, Bangor Daily News
    Nation | Wednesday, August 1, 2012 at 10:46 am
    A bill designed to prevent disruptions at military funerals has cleared the U.S. House and heads next to the White House for President Obama’s signature.

    The measure, sponsored by Sen. Olympia Snowe and inspired by a Frankfort teenager, passed the Senate in mid-July.
    The Sanctity of Eternal Rest for Veterans, or SERVE, Act would strengthen restrictions for protests at military funeral services. The act would require 120 minutes of quiet time before and after military funerals, up from the current 60 minutes. It also would expand the buffer zone around military funerals to 300 feet from 150 feet, and expand the buffer zone around funeral access routes from 300 to 500 feet.

    The legislation would also increase civil penalties for those who violate the law’s provisions.
    Snowe introduced the legislation in April 2011, a month after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that protesters have the right to protest at military funerals. That court case, Snyder v. Phelps, involved a military family and the controversial Westboro Baptist Church, which has used military funerals as a platform to promote its claim that God is angry for the country’s tolerance of homosexuality.

    Snowe credits Zach Parker of Frankfort with inspiring her to introduce the SERVE Act. Parker took on a months-long quest last year as a Searsport District High School senior to raise awareness about a need to protect military funerals from offensive protests. He developed proposed legislation as part of his efforts, which began as a class project.

    “Those who fight and die in the service of our country deserve our highest respect, and I commend the House and Senate for giving this issue its due consideration,” Snowe said in a statement released by her office. “Our nation has a vested interest in honoring those who serve in our armed forces, and this bill achieves that while respecting the intent of the First Amendment to our Constitution.”


    Goddammit.
    No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

  • #2
    I don't think it should be limited to military funerals, but yeah that does make me happy.

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    • #3
      Just to add btw, the idea that this has anything to do with freedom of speech makes me very angry. This is about not allowing cruel and vicious emotional abuse of people in their most vulnerable state. The idea that someone could lose a child and have a group of ****s at the funeral waving signs saying that they're basically happy your kid is dead is so far beyond ****ed up, that there simply aren't enough swear words to accurately describe it. If you system protects that, then your system is broken.

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      • #4
        Damn right.
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        • #5
          One of the great things about Freedom of Speech is that it allowws you to pick out the *******s. This will probably fail at the supreme court as well, simply because it turns military funerals into a special case. Why didn't they include gay funerals, or all funerals? It really begs the question.
          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
            One of the great things about Freedom of Speech is that it allowws you to pick out the *******s. This will probably fail at the supreme court as well, simply because it turns military funerals into a special case. Why didn't they include gay funerals, or all funerals? It really begs the question.
            It should include all funerals.

            Freedom of speech can have sane limitations.
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            • #7
              So how long until a court finds this unconstitutional? Shouldn't take very long.
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              • #8
                This board has made it apparent to me that Americans are the only people who actually know what liberty means.

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                • #9
                  The joys of our legal system. Legislating things because of one or two bad apples without a whit of common decency. Followed by the inevitable one or two asshats who feel the need to contest laws based upon slippery slope rationales.
                  "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                    This board has made it apparent to me that Americans are the only people who actually know what liberty means.
                    We're not with you, so we're probably against you. #USA

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                      This board has made it apparent to me that Americans are the only people who actually know what liberty means.
                      Alternatively, other people have different conceptions of liberty. Also, Sloww is an American.
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                      • #12
                        Only for the present. Won't be once Texas secedes.
                        "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                        “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
                          Alternatively, other people have different conceptions of liberty. Also, Sloww is an American.


                          Americans may define liberty as the ability to prevent gays to marry and to scream '******' loudly at the mourning family of AIDS victims during a funeral.

                          My definition of liberty includes marrying my loved one and being able to mourn their passing in peace.
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                          • #14
                            Yeah, well, I still think those ****ers should be allowed to picket funerals. I'd rather hurt feelings than risk persecuting potentially valuable speech. At the very least, that kind of hateful speech lets the rest of us find common ground. As soon as you outlaw it, however, otherwise decent people are going to start taking their side because that's the cool thing to do.
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                            • #15
                              I am completely indifferent about this.

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