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I hope they prove it doesn't exist, so that I can float away like a bubble.
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From what I gather, they've "proved" that a Higgs exists. There was a curious lack of results in a particular decay channel (pairs of tau/anti-tau), and this apparently hints at new physics beyond the Standard Model.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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Yes, exactly it's definitely a boson, definitely a Higgs, but might not be a Standard Model Higgs. Which would be more exciting in some ways.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
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Not at all sure it is a Higgs, although they were looking for a SM Higgs (the overall trial factor would be higher without that assumption).
I would just leave it as "Probably they saw the SM Higgs".
It might not be possible to verify everything without the Linear Collider.
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If it's important enough, can this particle be promoted to a more dignified rank than bosun? Like supercargo or maybe first mate. I refuse to believe our present model of physics is supervised by such a low-ranking officer.Comment
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Why the skepticism? The scientist bloggers I've been reading seem to think this is a pretty solid discovery.Originally posted by Jon Miller View PostClick here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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If they look where they expect the SM Higgs to be, they reject the Null Hypothesis by ~5 sigma. (this is the big announcement)
If they look everywhere, they reject the Null Hypothesis by ~1 sigma. (this is not really mentioned)
If they expect the SM Higgs, then they reject the SM Hypothesis by ~1 sigma. (this is the 'might not be the SM Higgs', which is mentioned)
In physics 1-2 sigma is agreement (not rejecting it), and the first statement is a bit dodgy (due to the assumptions).
JMLast edited by Jon Miller; July 4, 2012, 10:46.Jon Miller-
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Cool, how long until they are on the market?“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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Gotcha.Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post
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What a ridiculous waste of money.Comment
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I really upset my Mom's cousin's husband when I was talking about how much money was spent on fundamental physics research with no near term financial gain.
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Well sure, unless you value science in and of itself.Originally posted by Kuciwalker View PostClick here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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Do you consider the NBA, the NFL, the new Spider Man, and 50 shades of grey to be ridiculous wastes of money?Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
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People carry out "ridiculous wastes of money" in their private expenditures all the time if we assume a failure to maximize the average utility of the human race is a "ridiculous waste of money".Comment
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Not unless it can fit in a pivot table or probability model.Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
(for actuary types, not me)"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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