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  • rah
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    Pointing out other possible sexist examples doesn't change the fact that the RCC is sexist by not allowing women to be priests.
    All you're doing is attempting to change the direction of the discussion. Something you do frequently.
    Just agree that it's sexist and your faith justifies that treatment.

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  • notyoueither
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    Originally posted by gribbler View Post
    Do they even have rules barring women from joining? I don't think anyone has argued that expecting women to meet the same standards as men to fill certain positions is sexist. But women are categorically forbidden from becoming Catholic priests because the Catholic church is a sexist institution.

    Pro hockey has had women players.

    One played a game in the NHL.

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  • Bugs ****ing Bunny
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    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    How about allowing men to raise the children they conceive even if the woman doesn't want to?

    If it's balanced out by allowing them both to have abortions performed on themselves on demand, sure.

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  • giblets
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    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    By your 'definition' the fact that only women can give birth is also sexist. Nature discriminates against men.
    Nature is not necessarily good... nature causes deaths, but if a human kills another human, then what they are doing is wrong.

    By that definition, a woman's basketball team is also sexist.
    Except that men have every opportunity to be basketball players and men can actually achieve greater fame and wealth by playing basketball than women can...

    Sure it is, an example of discrimination, since men can't have children.
    Yes, nature is unfair in countless ways. Which doesn't justify unequal treatment by society.

    So MLB is sexist because there are no women on any of the teams?
    Do they even have rules barring women from joining? I don't think anyone has argued that expecting women to meet the same standards as men to fill certain positions is sexist. But women are categorically forbidden from becoming Catholic priests because the Catholic church is a sexist institution.

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  • Ben Kenobi
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    Let's plunge headlong into Monty Python territory and agree to support men's right to become pregnant and have children. Now, about those priests?
    How about allowing men to raise the children they conceive even if the woman doesn't want to?

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  • Ben Kenobi
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    WOMEN aren't allowed to be priest. IT"S SEXIST BY DEFINITION.
    By your 'definition' the fact that only women can give birth is also sexist. Nature discriminates against men.

    I don't care if it's against your faith.
    Obviously not, since you aren't Catholic.

    But that doesn't change the fact that it is sexist by definition.
    By that definition, a woman's basketball team is also sexist.

    Stating that only a women can have a baby isn't relevant.
    Sure it is, an example of discrimination, since men can't have children.

    Even if I say it's sexist, that doesn't change the fact that the RCC rule that forbids women from being priests is SEXIST.
    So MLB is sexist because there are no women on any of the teams?

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  • Dinner
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    To bad their current lady President is so loony. Her nationalizing of foreign investments, export controls on commodities, and currency controls are only making the Argentine economy worse not better. No wonder she's trying to distract people by grand standing about the Falklands.

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  • The Mad Monk
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    WOMEN can be PRESIDENT of ARGENTINA for ALL THE GOOD it DOES THEM.

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  • Bugs ****ing Bunny
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    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post

    Is it sexist that only women can give birth?

    Let's plunge headlong into Monty Python territory and agree to support men's right to become pregnant and have children. Now, about those priests?

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  • rah
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    Well, sure. If you believe that men and women are exactly the same then yes, it would be a sexist thing to believe. However, if you believe that men and women are different but fundamentally equal to one another then no.
    WTF does that have to with anything.

    World English Dictionary
    sexism (ˈsɛksɪzəm)

    — n
    discrimination on the basis of sex

    WOMEN aren't allowed to be priest. IT"S SEXIST BY DEFINITION.


    I don't care if it's against your faith. I've actually defended your right to take it on faith. But that doesn't change the fact that it is sexist by definition.
    Stating that only a women can have a baby isn't relevant. Even if I say it's sexist, that doesn't change the fact that the RCC rule that forbids women from being priests is SEXIST.

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  • The Mad Monk
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    ..British and Argentinian leaders clash over Falklands
    By Jordi Zamora | AFP – 9 hours ago....

    Argentinian officials branded the British leader a "colonialist" in dismissing Kirchner's call for talks on the sovereignty of the islands, while Cameron said he had been attempting to counter Argentina's "propaganda".

    The pair came face-to-face at the meeting of the world's major economies in Mexico, at a time when tensions between their countries were already running high just days after the 30th anniversary of the Falklands War.

    Cameron urged Kirchner to respect the will of the 3,000 residents on the South Atlantic islands, who want to remain British. Kirchner countered him by citing UN resolutions calling for sovereignty negotiations.

    "The president had the UN resolutions and she said to Cameron: 'Let's respect the United Nations'," Argentina's Foreign Minister Hector Timmerman said.

    "The prime minister refused to accept the documents, turned his back and walked away without a farewell," he added, accusing Britain of disrespecting UN resolutions and of retaining an imperialist mindset.

    "After years of acting as a colonial power they have forgotten that they are responsible for the existence of colonialism, and that it is countries like Argentina that defeated most of the colonial projects in the world," he said.

    Cameron confirmed he approached Kirchner in order to urge her to respect the right of Falkland Islanders to choose their own future in an upcoming referendum that is expected to show overwhelming opposition to Argentinian rule.

    "We should be clear that because there's a referendum there's an opportunity for those countries in the world who have not looked at this issue for a while and have perhaps accepted some of the propaganda put around by Argentina or its supporters to look again at this issue and recognize that the people of these islands should be able to determine their own future," he said.

    "It's an important point to make to the Argentine president and an important point to make more widely and that's exactly why I did what I did."

    A Downing Street source, speaking on condition of anonymity, confirmed that there had been a tense exchange, but downplayed the allegation that Cameron had refused to accept a packet of documents from Kirchner.

    "He took it up to her to make those points. She took that badly and that was basically it," she said.

    "I don't think it was actually totally clear that she was trying to give him documents.... We're following up with Argentinian officials here to see if there are any documents they want to give us."

    In 1982 Argentina's former military regime invaded and occupied the Falkland Islands, which are known as the Malvinas in Spanish.

    Britain promptly dispatched a naval task force to the South Atlantic and recaptured the territory after a brief but fierce war which left 255 British soldiers and 650 Argentines dead.

    Argentina now has an elected civilian government and Kirchner has called for negotiations with Britain on the islands' future.

    British officials accuse her of stirring nationalist passions for domestic political gain, and Cameron has refused to discuss the issue of sovereignty.


    You know, I think the real loser in this exchange is the United Nations. :\

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  • Bugs ****ing Bunny
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    Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    Ever heard of first-time anal?

    Zing!

    I think it speaks volumes about Albie that he added a "Zing" to a feed line that would be considered blindingly obvious to 99.9% of humanity.

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  • Ogie Oglethorpe
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    Originally posted by gribbler View Post
    "Mexican" is not race. Hating a worthless country that pollutes your rivers and is overrun by drug lords doesn't make you a racist.
    Point taken, racist has become such an overused word in ways that have little to do with race. Small minded bigotry is a more appropriate descriptor.

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  • Dinner
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    Originally posted by gribbler View Post
    "Mexican" is not race. Hating a worthless country that pollutes your rivers and is overrun by drug lords doesn't make you a racist.
    I'd like to point out that Tijuana specifically and Mexico in general does have some pretty big problems but the place isn't a total lose as Tijuana has some really great arts and culture going on down there. Yes, you don't want to go there after dark due to the cartel violence and you certainly want to stick to the tourist areas instead of going off the beaten path but that region has an extremely happening food scene which just about every major paper in America is going gaga over plus the music scene is pretty kick ass. Yes, I wish they'd stop dumping trash, raw sewage, and toxic industrial waste into the rivers and the whole hanging 20 headless corpses by the feet from freeway over passes thing gives me the willies but there is both good and bad down there like any where else.

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  • Al B. Sure!
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    Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
    The one in my head has a man writhing in agony on it. I think that might be why I didn't automatically make that connection.
    Ever heard of first-time anal?

    Zing!

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