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  • #46
    Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
    By the way, I've never made $15/hr in my life.
    And I'm betting that despite, or perhaps because of this, minimum wage increasing to that would not help you.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
      Actually, I can first-hand estimate the effect because we had an increase from $5.15/hr to $7.25/hr while I was a manager in fast food. That's a 40% increase in labor costs. Since labor costs typically account for 20% of cost of business at the retail level, prices could be expected to increase by 8%.

      We increased prices following the law piece-meal and some products saw price increases (some significant, like french fries) while others (like our 'value line') remained static. I don't have all the price changes for me to figure out definitively what the result was but in general, I'd say prices increased 10-15%. In general, it did seem like everything went up a dime on the dollar.

      So yeah that means 40% increase in prices from a doubling of minimum wage would be on the high-end. A 25-37% increase in prices is my educated guess.

      Of course, this is only considering the increase in costs associated with employees earning minimum wage. The increase we actually saw probably didn't inflate the wages of those making more than minimum wage much (actually, I was still making $9/hour before and after the minimum wage increase). Something as dramatic as doubling the minimum wage to $15/hr would have an inflationary effect on all wage-earners so the price of a burger will be higher than my 25-37% increase estimate. But $15 burgers at McDonalds is not likely.
      Have you ever considered that it's a little bit absurd that you can solve economics/business problems like this correctly and yet you still spend your time in jobs that don't use those skills?
      "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Jaguar View Post
        Have you ever considered that it's a little bit absurd that you can solve economics/business problems like this correctly and yet you still spend your time in jobs that don't use those skills?
        Those jobs won't hire me.
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        "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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        • #49
          Why don't you try moving somewhere with really low unemployment?

          I bet you could find work in some place like North Dakota. Hey, it might be cold, but it's Sparky lives in Winnipeg, which is even colder.

          edit: And if you *really* want to join the military you could join the National Guard there. Would pay extra money and frankly, getting deployed would probably be an increase over your current salary.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
            Personally, I'd rather not pay 15 bucks for a hamburger.
            Are you saying an hour of minimum wage labor goes into a hamburger? That's an interesting estimate.

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            • #51
              So why is it already that college tuitions are an incentive for students to capitalize on their degree, but that minimum wages are not productivity incentives for employers?
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              • #52


                0/2. I dispute the premise.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                  Why don't you try moving somewhere with really low unemployment?

                  I bet you could find work in some place like North Dakota. Hey, it might be cold, but it's Sparky lives in Winnipeg, which is even colder.

                  edit: And if you *really* want to join the military you could join the National Guard there. Would pay extra money and frankly, getting deployed would probably be an increase over your current salary.
                  I think he might struggle to find employment in finance in North Dakota.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                    Those jobs won't hire me.
                    Apparently, neither will the Marines. Why not try again for them? You've already tried for the Marines twice (three times?) and failed.
                    If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by regexcellent View Post


                      This is stupid in so many ways but let's start by pointing out that taxes pay these salaries. They are public sector workers.

                      Oh and thank god minimum wage is not $15/hour or college students like myself would find it basically impossible to get a job.
                      Taxes are deducted from their salaries. Wa-a-a-a-a-a-ay too great of % of their salaries, according to people like you. I disagree. Pay a teacher $60,000/year. 50% or more goes to taxes and back to the government which can then employ more teachers. Take out the word 'teachers' and change it to 'garbage collectors' or 'city clerks'. Make sure they all receive excellent wages and benifits.

                      In Manitoba the minimum wage is currently around $10/hr, a good start. The wage didn't jump overnight from $1/hr: IIRC the government announced that, over a 4 year period, the minimum wage would go up .50 twice per year.

                      I'm sure there are areas in the US where there is no minimum wage. I know some American companies that open in Canada are shocked that we don't treat students like you looking for work like sh*t, and have real labour laws that are enforced.

                      As for the $15 burger - a lot of places have them. Not Rotten Ronnies or Wendys Fat and Sleazy, but steak houses often have burgers around that level. I remember when I said I'd never pay more than $15 for a nice steak... oh, well. Good thing I'm part of a good Union.

                      TMMs comment about lab techs making $15/hr where he's from, I was able to find 2009 wage numbers from Manitoba. At the time the minimum wage was around $8.50/hour - with Lab Techs starting $23.55, with increases to 26.55 and 31.92 DOE and qualifications.

                      Finally, largely because of fracking, ND is booming (literally). If you truly are qualified, I'm sure you could find a job in finance in North Dakota.
                      Last edited by Uncle Sparky; May 13, 2012, 02:13.
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                      • #56
                        Of course you'll be thankful you are part of a union. The entire purpose of a union is to benefit the union members at the expense of the workers who would otherwise have jobs if not for the union.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
                          Of course you'll be thankful you are part of a union. The entire purpose of a union is to benefit the union members at the expense of the workers who would otherwise have jobs if not for the union.
                          The entire purpose of a union is to ensure our members receive fair compensation for our work. I'm also an independent producer. I use unionized performers in my productions. (A few years ago, I was almost actually in a strike/lockout positon with myself, so unless your in a union or own a unionized company, please don't try to bullsh*t me.)
                          There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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                          • #58
                            It's really easy to ensure you receive whatever compensation you consider 'fair' - don't accept a job whose compensation is 'unfair'.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
                              It's really easy to ensure you receive whatever compensation you consider 'fair' - don't accept a job whose compensation is 'unfair'.
                              What if you live in a state with so called 'right to work' legislation. After you accept a job, you can be told your hours, compensation, benifits will be going down to save the company/government money. This may be after years of working for the same employer. Even if you are unionized, you could be legaly locked out. Individuals within the union who deside to work for less, and others, could be hired to replace you without recourse in many 'union busting' states. Or the company might close shop and relocate to a state with more 'favourable' labour laws. Or Mexico, or China.

                              I have no interest in being a part of the 'race to the bottom' that some of you advocate as sound economic policy.
                              There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                                Those jobs won't hire me.
                                Then get the necessary skills and qualifications so that they will hire you. Do what it takes--whether it means going back to school or college or whatever. Stop wasting your time!
                                "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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