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    Is this some ****ing joke? Wow.



    DVDs and Blu-rays will now carry two unskippable government warnings
    The old FBI copyright warning gets an upgrade.



    You know those FBI warning messages that appear at the beginning of DVDs and Blu-ray discs? They're getting an upgrade—and they're multiplying.

    The US government yesterday rolled out not one but two copyright notices, one to "warn" and one to "educate." Six major movie studios will begin using the new notices this week.

    The main change is that Immigrations & Customs Enforcement (ICE) has, in the last several years, made itself a key player in the copyright wars. The FBI has shown extremely limited interest in going after individual websites, but ICE has done so with gusto; it has so far seized more than 750 domain names after rightsholder complaints. This new prominence is reflected in the broader logos used.

    ICE now appears on both notices. The first notice shows the traditional FBI seal and a warning that "the unauthorized reproduction or distribution of this copyrighted work is illegal. Criminal copyright infringement is investigated by federal law enforcement agencies and is punishable by up to 5 years in prison and a fine of $250,000." The logo for ICE's Homeland Security Investigations unit now appears beside the FBI's.

    Banner number one. Now with "more logo"

    The second notice shows the logo for the National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center, which involves 20 different US government agencies. It features one extremely angry eagle who would probably pluck your eyeballs from your sockets if he could get those talons near you. "Piracy is not a victimless crime," says the notice. "For more information on how digital theft harms the economy, please visit www.iprcenter.gov."

    Will the two screens be shown back to back? Will each screen last for 10 seconds each? Will each screen be unskippable? Yes, yes, and yes.

    An ICE spokesman tells me that the two screens will "come up after the previews, once you hit the main movie/play button on the DVD. At which point the movie rating comes up, followed by the IPR Center screen shot for 10 secs and then the FBI/HSI anti-piracy warning for 10 secs as well. Neither can be skipped/fast forwarded through."

    The idea isn't to deter current pirates, apparently (the new scheme requires all legal purchasers to sit through 20 seconds of warnings each time they pop in a film, but will be totally absent from pirated downloads and bootlegs). It's to educate everyone else. As ICE Director John Morton announced in a statement yesterday, "Law enforcement must continue to expand how it combats criminal activity; public awareness and education are a critical part of that effort."
    Couple questions.

    1) Homeland Security? WTF?

    2) Does this not further encourage piracy? Everyone knows it's "illegal", but now they've made it exceptionally obnoxious to spend your hard earned cash on a disc with 20 seconds of unskippable annoyances that will always show.
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  • #2
    1) Our film industry is our greatest national asset.

    2)Yes. It's completely stupid.
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    • #3
      Why do we even have a department of homeland security?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by gribbler View Post
        Why do we even have a department of homeland security?
        After 9/11 everyone decided we needed to throw domestic security into one big cabinet department. So Coast Guard left Transportation and Secret Service left Treasury and Border Patrol left Justice...etc. Except FBI is still in Justice and the CIA is off by itself and DHS is a ****ing bureaucratic mess with scandals left and right from the TSA. So it's a giant cluster****.
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        • #5
          I'm still not sure why pirating movies is a national security problem. I mean Department of Homeland Security for blu-rays?
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          • #6
            Shouldn't it be DoJ that handles this stuff? Pretty sure IP piracy is the FBI's domain.
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            • #7
              That would make sense.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                After 9/11 everyone decided we needed to throw domestic security into one big cabinet department. So Coast Guard left Transportation and Secret Service left Treasury and Border Patrol left Justice...etc. Except FBI is still in Justice and the CIA is off by itself and DHS is a ****ing bureaucratic mess with scandals left and right from the TSA. So it's a giant cluster****.

                Good wiki summary.
                “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                "Capitalism ho!"

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                • #9
                  Three things:

                  1) This is stupid.

                  2) It actually makes sense that it falls under the Department of Homeland Security, only because DHS is the parent agency of both the Bureaus of Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), which between them cover international property violations, including copyright violations.

                  3) This is really, really stupid.
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