Poly: Conservative Stronghold?

[kentonio]

The makers of that site are full of ****. Clearly. It seems calling all American politicians a bunch of right wing nutjobs helps advance their leftist agenda. In their eyes, somehow, I'm sure they believe that Obama & Romney are racist eugenic supporting nutjobs. According to their quiz Dennis Kucinich is a moderate.

Compared to most of the world, most American politicians are a bunch of right wing nutjobs. Dennis Kucinich would just be a fairly moderate left wing politician in most European countries including the UK.

Incidentally it's ****ing hilarious watching all you right wing authoritarian types trying to redefine authoritarianism. Eugenics, racism and banning pornography have literally nothing to do with subordinating the individual to the state, so pack away your strawmen and accept your rightful places on the conservative right wing.

[Jon Miller]

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -4.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.38

Today.

I don't see how this has anything to do with whether you are conservative or not.

JM

[Jaguar]

The makers of that site are full of ****. Clearly. It seems calling all American politicians a bunch of right wing nutjobs helps advance their leftist agenda. In their eyes, somehow, I'm sure they believe that Obama & Romney are racist eugenic supporting nutjobs. According to their quiz Dennis Kucinich is a moderate.

To me, their left-wing answers always seemed like straw men.

[Al B. Sure!]

Compared to most of the world, most American politicians are a bunch of right wing nutjobs. Dennis Kucinich would just be a fairly moderate left wing politician in most European countries including the UK.

Incidentally it's ****ing hilarious watching all you right wing authoritarian types trying to redefine authoritarianism. Eugenics, racism and banning pornography have literally nothing to do with subordinating the individual to the state, so pack away your strawmen and accept your rightful places on the conservative right wing.

THEIR test does not support that position! If they want to portray them as authoritarians, they need to make a test that will do so! Their test, as of right now, results in Obama and Romney NOT being far authoritarian.

In other words, we can reasonably guess which questions affect the authoritarian-libertarian score and give the expected authoritarian response for all of them except these:

Our race has many superior qualities, compared with other races.
All people have their rights, but it is better for all of us that different sorts of people should keep to their own kind.
People with serious inheritable disabilities should not be allowed to reproduce.
Pornography, depicting consenting adults, should be legal for the adult population.
What goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state.

Which clearly neither Obama nor Romney would take the authoritarian position...

and you still wind up no where near where Obama and Romney supposedly are on the far authoritarian side.


If they are authoritarian nutjobs, they need to have a test that shows that. Their test does not put them in the far authoritarian area.

I am not denying the possibility that they are authoritarian. I am denying that the TEST shows them as authoritarian.

And if you hold politicians to a different standard than the test, that means comparison between test-takers and politicians would be invalid, since it would be comparing apples to oranges.

[regexcellent]

Moreover they seem to think that Newt Gingrich is as authoritarian as Robert Mugabe. I don't think I've ever heard Newt call for the imprisonment and/or execution of homosexuals, or implementation of a secret police force.

[Jon Miller]

I don't think that they place Romney/Obama based on what they would score on the test, but rather how they perceive them to be.

JM

[Al B. Sure!]

I don't think that they place Romney/Obama based on what they would score on the test, but rather how they perceive them to be.

JM

Which means we'd be comparing apples to oranges by comparing our test scores with theirs... which defies the entire purpose of the test!

[Hauldren Collider]

To me, their left-wing answers always seemed like straw men.

QFT

[Hauldren Collider]

Moreover they seem to think that Newt Gingrich is as authoritarian as Robert Mugabe. I don't think I've ever heard Newt call for the imprisonment and/or execution of homosexuals, or implementation of a secret police force.

Also QFMFT.

I don't think that they place Romney/Obama based on what they would score on the test, but rather how they perceive them to be.

JM

And if their perception is that they're a click away from a banana republic dictator, their perception is ludicrously wrong.

[Al B. Sure!]

And if their perception is that they're a click away from a banana republic dictator, their perception is ludicrously wrong.

It doesn't matter if it's wrong; it could be right and their test would still be flawed because, using their test, they're not dictators. They can't use a different standard for Obama and Romney than the one they use for the test when the purpose of the test is to compare test-takers with established politicians.

[Hauldren Collider]

Bottom line is that the people making this test have an agenda, and that's only one of the reasons the test really sucks.

[Jaguar]

It doesn't matter if it's wrong; it could be right and their test would still be flawed because, using their test, they're not dictators. They can't use a different standard for Obama and Romney than the one they use for the test when the purpose of the test is to compare test-takers with established politicians.

[kentonio]

It doesn't matter if it's wrong; it could be right and their test would still be flawed because, using their test, they're not dictators.

Based on you making up what you think their answers might be. Incidentally if this test has any value, then the hard extremes that it uses should be very extreme. Hard authoritarian should be full on fascist, and even though America has lamentably turned hard right in recent years, only a ****ing idiot would put Romney or Obama in the Hitler category.

[giblets]

Bottom line is that the people making this test have an agenda, and that's only one of the reasons the test really sucks.

You obviously have an agenda if you deny that Obama is practically a Nazi.

[Donegeal]

Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.00

Huh... I would have guessed I was much more Authoritive.