Presentation of a DL or State I.D. that includes a photo needs to be in effect. Don't like it? Tough ****.
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No way to prove it or even have a meaningful poll. We certainly can't put it to a vote, as current requirements exist, can we?Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Posthttp://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...r-id-check-law
75% of voters, including a majority of Democrats, support voter ID laws. This leads me to believe that many Democrats want to keep these laws from passing because fraud is actually component in their electoral strategy. This is of course unprovable.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
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Present facts that contradict him.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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Originally posted by Felch View PostThe portion that's dead? The tyranny of the living is a terrible sight to behold.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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Originally posted by MrFun View PostHow exactly is a return to voting laws reminiscent of Jim Crow laws a good thing for democracy?Last edited by Zevico; April 15, 2012, 07:36."You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier
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Originally posted by Felch View PostThe portion that's dead? The tyranny of the living is a terrible sight to behold.
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier
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Originally posted by bc1871 View PostVoter identification helps to quash fraud, which is generally perpetrated by liberals.
http://www.salon.com/2012/02/27/vote..._gop_official/
Or Republican legislative aide Marcie Malszycki under investigation for voter fraud, incidentally she works for the guy who put forward one of these voter ID bills.
http://www.politicususa.com/twisted-...or-voter-fraud
Or how about Mitt Romney voting for Scott Brown after claiming that he actually lives in his sons basement?
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/...it-voter-fraud
How about we actually look at the evidence which shows that voter fraud happens about 0.0004% to 0.0009% of the time, and accept that this is a pathetic strawman which is being used by the Republicans to lower the Democratic voter turnout.
http://www.brennancenter.org/content...t_voter_fraud/
Oh and just to finish up, heres Paul Weyrich of the Heritage Foundation actually openly saying why they don't want people to vote.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw
Originally posted by Paul Weyrich"Now many of our Christians have what I call the goo-goo syndrome — good government. They want everybody to vote. I don't want everybody to vote. Elections are not won by a majority of people, they never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now. As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down."
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Originally posted by Zevico View PostThe answer to this question requires a broader consideration of voting laws worldwide. Internationally, voting laws can and do require the production of identification prior to voting. In Australia, for example, such is the case and there is no issue or debate about whether it is sensible. It is taken as a given. Quite simply, voter ID laws reduce the possibility of voter fraud: and by fraud, I mean voting by people who are not entitled to vote, like people posing as dead citizens and voting in their place. This can and does happen: the phrase "vote early and vote often" did not come from nowhere. Voter fraud is a real phenomenon and it does not discriminate according to race, colour or creed (though its perpetrators often have to achieve racist goals, as proponents of Jim Crow did). Obtaining identification is no more difficult than registering to vote and frankly, registration and obtaining ID can be done in tandem. What this means is that voter ID laws are not exclusively or necessarily associated with the Jim Crow agenda. If you ensure that ID easily obtainable without regard to your race, creed or colour then no person will be purposely disenfranchised.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
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Originally posted by MrFun View PostI can't wait to see the corruption, manipulation, and exploitation that will occur, when those in the voter registration drives go out of their way to make members of certain demographic groups jump through more hoops to get their ID compared to members of other demographic groups.In Indiana, turnout was 22 percent higher in 2010, after photo ID, than in 2006.
In Georgia, total turnout in the 2010 midterms was 19 percent higher than in 2006.
And 44 percent more African-American voters cast ballots in the 2010 midterms in Georgia than in 2006.
Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp, a Republican said, “All these critics and these reports that are saying that people are going to be disenfranchised -- they have no hard data. They’re speculating. When you look at our numbers, we know, because we’ve been doing this since 2007, we know that minority participation has actually increased since photo ID laws were put in place.”
I'm also curious where the fact Rhode Island (a heavily Democratic state) passed a voter id bill fits into the Voter ID is a GOP plot to suppress the turn out of Democratic voters argument.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
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Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
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