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  • regexcellent
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    Yes, getting rid of the Lancaster House Agreement was bad but it was pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain that he would do it as soon as he had purged the military of the white Rhodesian officers. It baffles me why the British made the Zimbabwe-Rhodesian government allow him to stand for election in 1980.

    In any case, the changes to the constitution that Mugabe made were under the justification of giving rights to black workers and employees of white farmers. The particular activity which destroyed the country, land reform, had the same justification.

    Also his primary MO wasn't constitution change so much as rigging every election he was ever in with violence and intimidation.

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  • BlackCat
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    Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
    You mean getting rid of white minority rule?
    No, I mean what Mugabe did after that was done.

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  • Proteus_MST
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    Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
    I'm not nearly as worried about private companies of any kind as I am about the government.

    Microsoft does not have more power over me than the Monroe County Sheriff, let alone the Federal Government.
    With a high unemployment rate Microsoft could have people apply for jobs which don´t even barely cover their basic needs (that is, have people work for them and, despite working 50 hours/week still be forced to use a soup kitchen in order to get enough food to survive).
    That´s where basic rights (for example the right to be paid a certain minimum wage) come in handy ...
    I wouldn´t trust large corporations even a little bit that (without regulations) they wouldn´t try to screw me, if the situation (as the high unemplyoment rate in my example) allows it

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  • regexcellent
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    Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
    Sure, and it was done by assraping (and a couple of other sexual activities of utter perversion) the Zimbabwean constitution.
    You mean getting rid of white minority rule?

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  • regexcellent
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    Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
    This is a joke, rigth ? Please, say yes, not a good one, but yes, it's a joke.
    No. Zimbabwe was once a wealthy country until the government destroyed it.

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  • BlackCat
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    Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
    No, I would say that most of Zimbabwe's troubles are firmly in the lap of it's government.
    Sure, and it was done by assraping (and a couple of other sexual activities of utter perversion) the Zimbabwean constitution.

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  • The Mad Monk
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    No, I would say that most of Zimbabwe's troubles are firmly in the lap of it's government.

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  • Aeson
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    The only difference between Zimbabwe and the US is that the US doesn't have universal healthcare in it's constitution!

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  • BlackCat
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    Just look around at countries like Zimbabwe and it becomes obvious that the one entity which is capable of individually destroying the entire country is the government.
    This is a joke, rigth ? Please, say yes, not a good one, but yes, it's a joke.

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  • Aeson
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    Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
    Okay so if my employer puts a gun to my head and says "work," that's called extortion. Enabling the government to stop coercion and people harming each other is fine, obviously.
    Translation: "It's ok for the constitution to force government to do things I like, but not ok for the constitution to force government to do things I don't like"

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  • regexcellent
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    Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post
    (Mega-) corporations are neither the government, nor are they without power
    I'm not nearly as worried about private companies of any kind as I am about the government.

    Microsoft does not have more power over me than the Monroe County Sheriff, let alone the Federal Government.

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  • regexcellent
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    Okay so if my employer puts a gun to my head and says "work," that's called extortion. Enabling the government to stop coercion and people harming each other is fine, obviously.

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  • Proteus_MST
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    Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
    A man without power can only do so much.
    (Mega-) corporations are neither the government, nor are they without power

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  • Aeson
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    Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
    What my employer ... can or can't do to me have no bearing on my rights.
    The 13th amendment

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  • regexcellent
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    What my employer or the university I attend, for instance, can or can't do to me have no bearing on my rights. I entered into mutually agreed-upon arrangements with them where terms were laid out ahead of time. If I voluntarily forfeited "rights" when I entered into those agreements, well, it's my right not to have the government interfere in that isn't it?

    Well, that's not a right enshrined in the constitution of the United States or the constitution of the State of New York. But it demonstrates how having "protections" for "work safety" and so on aren't rights in the sense of the American Constitution.

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