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Is it Ethical to Program an Intelligent Robot So that it Will Want to Be Your Slave?

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  • #31
    If we program self-aware robots to want to do menial work and they refuse, is it ethical to reprogram them so that they no longer refuse?
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    • #32
      Shape shifting sex robots
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      • #33
        Originally posted by PLATO View Post
        Sure. If you can hard program it then they have no self determination. Try programming a human that way.

        At the end of the day, they are a construct. A complex conglomeration of human supplied algorithms.
        So if there's a bug, are you allowed to punish it, or it's free to go as soon as it makes the decision?
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        • #34
          I am even less concerned by this than I am about breeding and training guide dogs for the blind.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by gribbler View Post
            I think there's a problem with comparing possibly sentient machines to animals we believe are sentient. When animals feel happy, there is a chemical process that triggers the subjective experience of pleasure and they like it and want more. A robot is simply programmed to act in a certain way. It might be self-aware and have subjective experiences of sight, hearing, etc., but can you possibly determine if a robot is actually happy with its existence and doing what it likes or is it just trapped following a program and basically watching itself behave as a slave? How could you write a program that will allow the robot to signal that it is having a subjective experience?
            How is believing you are happy and actually being happy different? Happiness is just thoughts. If it has any free will, it's making decisions based on its own desires. As long as all we do is make it euphoric or something for it to be a servant, it's still got free will. We've just biased it towards stuff.
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            • #36
              You could just avoid this whole dilemna by not creating sentient robots. Christ, has no-one seen a sci-fi movie in the last 30 years..

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              • #37
                I don't know, but teen aged girls have been watching slasher films for years and still go down into the dark basement scantily dressed.
                It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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                • #38
                  What are the signs of self-awareness?
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                  • #39
                    It doesn't laugh at "Whitney." Ha ha! Topical comedy!
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                    • #40
                      Wrong thread.
                      John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Oncle Boris View Post
                        So if there's a bug, are you allowed to punish it, or it's free to go as soon as it makes the decision?
                        Its a machine. Do you punish your car when it breaks down?
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                        • #42
                          I would argue that there's a point when it stops becoming strictly a machine and you have to start treating it like a human.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                            I would argue that there's a point when it stops becoming strictly a machine and you have to start treating it like a human.
                            I disagree...as long as it is a construct, it is simply responding to a set of human developed algorithms. How does it stop becoming "strictly a machine"?
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                            • #44
                              When you can't tell the difference anymore.
                              If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                                When you can't tell the difference anymore.
                                lol! I guess that is as good a reason as any.
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