Did the Sahara cause Black-white racism and affect how we view race?

[SlowwHand]

Racism emerged during 200 years of slavery of dark-skinned people from Africa. It was convenient to have slaves that could easily be identified as such by their physical features and they thought enslaving people from lands that weren't Christian was acceptable. If they were raped by their white masters the off-spring, who were half white half black, were still seen as black and held as property. They obviously created a "spectrum" and ignored it.

Ridiculous. You actually believe, and I haven't read past this post yet, that slavery is a 200 year institution? I always thought you were more well-read than that statement would indicate.

[giblets]

Ridiculous. You actually believe, and I haven't read past this post yet, that slavery is a 200 year institution? I always thought you were more well-read than that statement would indicate.

In British North America (and later the United States) or the entire world?

[Berzerker]

Of course the Sahara is a geographic barrier, I thought his main point was that this was supposedly the source of black-white racism. If he was only saying the Sahara divides people, then he would deserve a "duh".

I can see how it helped create the divide, certainly with more genetic flow between these regions race wouldn't be nearly so relevant today

[SlowwHand]

In British North America (and later the United States) or the entire world?

In North America. I'm not talking about the Pyramids here.

[giblets]

I can see how it helped create the divide, certainly with more genetic flow between these regions race wouldn't be nearly so relevant today

There was a significant amount of "genetic flow" after the atlantic slave trade started and that didn't seem to stymy racism.

[Berzerker]

Why would a slave trade based largely on racial differences stymy racism?

and you make our point, the Atlantic slave trade bypassed that barrier of sand increasing gene flow... Given some time racial differences between populations will decrease and so will racism. Its happening here in the USofA.

[giblets]

Why would a slave trade based largely on racial differences stymy racism?

and you make our point, the Atlantic slave trade bypassed that barrier of sand increasing gene flow... Given some time racial differences between populations will decrease and so will racism. Its happening here in the USofA.

No, I did not make your point. The fact that some black people are part white is not the reason racism finally became unacceptable and went into decline in the last fifty years, centuries after the "genetic flow" started.

[SlowwHand]

Why do all of you people insist on concentrating solely on Blacks when it comes to slavery in North America?

[Al B. Sure!]

Why do all of you people insist on concentrating solely on Blacks when it comes to slavery in North America?

[giblets]

Why do all of you people insist on concentrating solely on Blacks when it comes to slavery in North America?

What other slavery has an effect on contemporary American society of a comparable magnitude? What other slavery required a bloody civil war in order to end it?

[SlowwHand]

Al, you're a prime person to be asking. Google American Indians and slavery. Company Stores, not far behind. Maybe read a little about Chinese and the railroads being built.
Not really much difference in any of them, especially and conclusively, American Indians.

[Jon Miller]

I tend to agree with gibber's first post.

You did not see such 'white black' racism pre1400.

Basically, europeans started to think that those in the neighboring country were people just like them. Freedom also started to come to the peasent. It was economically advantageous to continue to have slave labor (in the colonies especially) and so they they had to create the lie that africans were not really persons in hte same way as them.

Tons of slaves were never common in europe or shipped there.

JM

[Hauldren Collider]

Slavery was more an inter-clan thing than an inter-racial thing before the atlantic slave trade.

[Aeson]

There was less opportunity for racism to be expressed before the majority of the populations would have had any contact with each other, but to pretend racism didn't exist before 1400's is pretty silly. The biblical story of Ham for instance was used for millenia to explain the difference in skin color and even to justify having black slaves. It was used in other ways too of course, but it's very clear that the concept of despising someone for the color of their skin was not a recent invention.

[Al B. Sure!]

Slavery was more an inter-clan thing than an inter-racial thing before the atlantic slave trade.

I think Arabs only enslaved non-Arabs.