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Actually, were your knee not to respond you might be on the road to termination as a living entity since response to pain and reflexes are used to gauge braindeath.
You are trying valiently though.(\__/)
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Originally posted by gribbler View PostWhat are the anti-abortionists hoping to accomplish? Let's say Roe v. Wade gets overturned (slightly more likely than Nazis returning from the moon) and Virginia bans abortion. Big ****ing deal, women will just travel to Maryland to get their abortions.
Originally posted by notyoueither View PostWe effectively euthanise some people who have no brain activity. We have been doing that prior to euthanasia being legal in some parts of Europe.
I'm looking for the bright line between unfertilised egg and newborn.
I'm certain that an entity that is capable of life outside of the womb should be legally protected. I do not agree that a fertilised egg should be.
The absense of a brain puts an entity a long way the wrong side of the bright line for providing legal and moral protection I am looking for.
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Originally posted by Elok View PostSuppose post-birth infanticide were legal in MD but not VA. BFD, women would just drive their kids over the border to kill them and dump their bodies in the incinerator. Ergo, VA should have no law against it at all. Is that how it works?
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Originally posted by notyoueither View PostActually, were your knee not to respond you might be on the road to termination as a living entity since response to pain and reflexes are used to gauge braindeath.
You are trying valiently though.
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Originally posted by gribbler View PostThey could make it illegal if they want, but if MD doesn't it won't do much good.
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Originally posted by Elok View PostAnd this is true of almost every other law, too. I would prefer a nationwide ban, but giving states back the right to decide what kind of crap they don't want in their own borders sounds like a good first step.
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I certainly hope not. It would be social chaos.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
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The crime rate would go through the roof too especially since most of the people who are anti-choice are also against social programs for the poor. The love fetuses but hate real live children.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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It would guarantee a permanent underclass that would drag down all social resources.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"
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Originally posted by Dinner View PostThe crime rate would go through the roof too especially since most of the people who are anti-choice are also against social programs for the poor. The love fetuses but hate real live children.
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I am all for encouraging homosexual couples to adopt, and support social programs as the budget allows. If you want to make more room for them by scrapping some tanks and other invade-brown-people-to-teach-them-our-values gear, fine by me. I'm a moderate, not a conservative. Anyway,
Originally posted by gribbler View PostBut it's just a first step, and the next steps (a constitutional amendment?) won't happen.
BTW, what counts as a "brain" for abortion purposes? Two neurons? Eight? Thirty-two? A couple of thousand? None of those will allow for anything even approaching awareness AFAIK, but provided they're inside the skull or what will later turn into it, you could call them a brain.
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Originally posted by Dinner View PostThe crime rate would go through the roof too especially since most of the people who are anti-choice are also against social programs for the poor. The love fetuses but hate real live children.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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I don't think anyone here thought you personally believed such things but many anti-choice people are very far right and do.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Dinner View PostI don't think anyone here thought you personally believed such things but many anti-choice people are very far right and do.
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