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"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
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Originally posted by kentonio View PostGo back and read your own posts ****wit.
Surprise, surprise, HC's position is the one based on a lack of any empathy or compassion towards actual living people.
I was surprised to hear Jon being an extremist, but for you its just standard GOP script line isn't it.
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Originally posted by MRT144 View PostI would like Jon Miller to further explain the african american lifestyle that necessitates abortion.
JMJon Miller-
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GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
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I was warned in Sweden by my friends not to be open about my pro-life stance (they started talking about it, then warned me about pro-life being unacceptable, so I just kept my mouth shut).
JMJon Miller-
I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
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Originally posted by regexcellent View PostActually, he's right; you didn't contradict him at all.
Originally posted by HCThey are (rather, were planning on) mandating an ultrasound. Not a transvaginal ultrasound.
Ffs, I even quoted the governor directly to reinforce the point..
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Originally posted by Jon Miller View PostI would rather that MRT144 continue to make **** up.
JMMillions of babies get murdered because african-americans are lied to, and don't realize that they are killing their own children to pay for their lifestyle."I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
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Kentonio, HC DIRECTLY ADDRESSED THAT POINT. As he said, an ULTRASOUND was mandated, and before a certain point in time, that requires a transvaginal ultrasound. What HC was saying is that the purpose was to require an ultrasound, not require that women get something shoved up their vaginas. They can always just wait for the fetus to get larger, then get a transabdominal ultrasound.
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Originally posted by regexcellentAs has been stated in this thread it depends on your definition of living people.
Originally posted by regexcellentI have no idea what the spectrum is like in Euroland, but in the United States there is absolutely nothing extremist about being against abortion.
Then again, we Europeans tend to find a lot of Americas cultural debates to be rabid, ridiculous and obnoxious.
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Nobody on the anti-abortion side of this debate has said anything that lacks compassion toward women when held in perspective with the fact that they think they are committing murder. Nobody shows compassion for Timothy McVeigh.
Moreover, the stuff they have said in this thread is significantly calmer than the rhetoric which is regularly thrown around in the public sphere by advocacy groups for both sides. It's been completely within the realm of the mainstream.
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I have roughly the same compassion towards a woman who has an elective abortion as I do toward a single mother who, after dealing with a colicky, screaming child for weeks and weeks, finally snaps and shakes the child to death in a frenzy of panic.
Was she under a lot of stress? Yes.
Can I understand why she did what she did? Yes, at least in the abstract.
Do I call her a bad person? No.
Did she do something very, very wrong? Yes.
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Originally posted by regexcellent View PostKentonio, HC DIRECTLY ADDRESSED THAT POINT. As he said, an ULTRASOUND was mandated, and before a certain point in time, that requires a transvaginal ultrasound. What HC was saying is that the purpose was to require an ultrasound, not require that women get something shoved up their vaginas. They can always just wait for the fetus to get larger, then get a transabdominal ultrasound.
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Originally posted by Elok View PostI have roughly the same compassion towards a woman who has an elective abortion as I do toward a single mother who, after dealing with a colicky, screaming child for weeks and weeks, finally snaps and shakes the child to death in a frenzy of panic.
Was she under a lot of stress? Yes.
Can I understand why she did what she did? Yes, at least in the abstract.
Do I call her a bad person? No.
Did she do something very, very wrong? Yes."I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
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Originally posted by regexcellent View PostNobody on the anti-abortion side of this debate has said anything that lacks compassion toward women when held in perspective with the fact that they think they are committing murder. Nobody shows compassion for Timothy McVeigh.
Moreover, the stuff they have said in this thread is significantly calmer than the rhetoric which is regularly thrown around in the public sphere by advocacy groups for both sides. It's been completely within the realm of the mainstream.
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Pro-life activists blow up bombs because they have no other recourse for stopping the killing. It happens because democracy has been subverted by the Supreme Court.
The American mainstream has not become sick and twisted; it just hasn't gotten so ridiculously liberal as the European mainstream.
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