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  • US send drones into skies over Syria, officials tell NBC News

    Syria, or Iran? Iran, or Syria? The race is on.

    "A good number" are monitoring the attacks against opposition forces and innocent civilians alike, U.S. officials say.

    The Syrian army has continued to bombard at least half a dozen cities, despite the United Nations calling for an end to the violence. ITN's Bill Neely reports.
    By msnbc.com staff, NBC News and news services

    "A good number" of unmanned U.S. military and intelligence drones are operating in the skies over Syria, monitoring the Syrian military's attacks against opposition forces and innocent civilians alike, U.S. defense officials tell NBC News' Jim Miklaszewski.

    The officials said this surveillance is not in preparation for U.S. military intervention. Rather, the Obama administration hopes to use the overhead visual evidence and intercepts of Syrian government and military communications in an effort to "make the case for a widespread international response," the officials told Miklaszewski.

    Unlike in Libya, there has been no widespread international support for military intervention in the country. And while there has been some discussion among White House, State Dept. and Pentagon officials about possible humanitarian missions, U.S. officials fear that those missions could not be carried out without endangering those involved and would almost certainly draw the United States into a military role in Syria.

    On Friday, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's forces renewed bombardment of the opposition stronghold of Homs and attacked rebels in Deraa, in blatant disregard of a U.N. resolution.

    Demonstrations against Assad were reported by activists in several cities across Syria, including the capital Damascus and the commercial hub Aleppo, after Friday Muslim prayers, despite the threat of violence from security forces.

    In a show of support for Assad, China's vice foreign minister, Zhai Jun, arrived in Damascus after the U.N. General Assembly passed a resolution telling the increasingly isolated president to halt the crackdown and surrender power.

    China, along with Russia, had voted against the motion and says Syria must be allowed to resolve its problems without being dictated terms by foreign powers.

    Its stance on Syria will "withstand the test of history," Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Weimin said in Beijing.

    Zhai said before leaving for Damascus: "China does not approve of the use of force to interfere in Syria or the forceful pushing of a so-called regime change."

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Friday that the UN General Assembly resolution showed an overwhelming consensus that Syria's bloody crackdown must end.

    "So we will keep working to pressure and isolate the regime, to support the opposition and to provide relief to the people of Syria," Clinton said at a press conference.

    Even as Zhai landed in Damascus, government forces pummeled opposition-held areas of the strategic western city of Homs, now under fire for two weeks.

    In Deraa, a city on the Jordanian border where the revolt erupted nearly a year ago, explosions and machine gun fire echoed through districts under attack by troops, residents said.

    Army tanks rolled through the streets of the conflict-torn city, even as regime forces categorically denied using them.

    "We will not use them and we will win," a Syrian general in Deraa told ITN's Bill Neely.

    The military has also opened a new offensive in Hama, a city with a bloody history of resistance to Assad's late father.
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    A doctor told Neely that a growing number of revolutionary troops are suffering head and neck wounds, proof that they are facing a well-trained enemy -- in many cases, defectors from their own ranks.

    Protests continued in spite of the attacks, and one activist told Neely that Assad was doomed.

    "One hundred percent he will go," the activist said.

    The U.N. assembly vote in New York on Thursday showed Assad had few foreign sympathizers left. The vote went 137-12 in favour with 17 abstentions on a resolution endorsing an Arab League plan that calls for him to step down.

    The assembly vote, unlike Security Council resolutions, has no legal force but it reflected global revulsion at the ferocity of the crackdown in which security forces have killed several thousand civilians since last March.

    Assad portrays the opposition as foreign-backed terrorists and has promised reforms while rejecting the idea of surrendering power.

    On Wednesday he announced a referendum on a draft constitution on Feb. 26 followed by a multi-party parliamentary election, a move swiftly dismissed the opposition and the West.

    Assad told a visiting Mauritanian official on Friday that political reforms "have to march parallel with returning security and stability and protecting citizens," the state news agency said.

    U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and other world leaders have decried the violence and are considering steps to get humanitarian aid to civilians suffering in embattled areas.

    But the West has ruled out military intervention of the type that helped topple Moammar Gadhafi in Libya last year and must pin its hopes on a bringing together a fragmented opposition movement which includes activists inside Syria, armed rebels and politicians in exile.

    The military intervention in Libya was possible due to widespread support within NATO and among the Arab Gulf States and also because of the lack of support for Gadhafi, which is not the case for Syria.

    Reuters contributed to this report.
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    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

  • #2
    So?
    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
    "Capitalism ho!"

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    • #3
      rabble rabble rabble
      "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
      "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
        Syria, or Iran? Iran, or Syria? The race is on.
        The idiotic standard argued for by the Obama Admin to justify their intervention into Libya points toward Syria being the next target of Western intervention.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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        • #5
          I think the U.N. (insert USA here) takes Syria and Israel is given Iran.


          US, UK urge Israel not to attack Iran's nuclear program
          Few signs that Iran intends to back down
          Lip-service.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #6
            So what's different with Syria? Why isn't the West already there? I'm not advocating it (I'm against it) but just asking since I don't know my geopolitics of the area all that well.

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            • #7
              Maybe they can ask Iran for advice on how to bring them down.
              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
              RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • #8
                Too many pronouns.
                No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by VetLegion View Post
                  So what's different with Syria? Why isn't the West already there? I'm not advocating it (I'm against it) but just asking since I don't know my geopolitics of the area all that well.
                  There's no coalition.
                  “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                  "Capitalism ho!"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by VetLegion View Post
                    So what's different with Syria? Why isn't the West already there? I'm not advocating it (I'm against it) but just asking since I don't know my geopolitics of the area all that well.
                    Libya: Has oil, was able to complete it in a nonelection year.

                    Syria: Does not have oil, would have to do it in an election year.
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                    • #11
                      Also, we had an existing narrative with the guy who led Libya. Lots of people already knew and hated/despised/laughed at Ghaddafi. Assad? Not so much. He's just Some Random Foreign Dickhead.
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                      • #12
                        Russia just raised the ante.

                        ..Russian Anti-Terror Troops Arrive in Syria
                        By KIRIT RADIA and RYM MOMTAZ | ABC News – 5 hrs ago.........Related Content.

                        ....A Russian military unit has arrived in Syria, according to Russian news reports, a development that a United Nations Security Council source told ABC News was "a bomb" certain to have serious repercussions.

                        Russia, one of President Bashar al-Assad's strongest allies despite international condemnation of the government's violent crackdown on the country's uprising, has repeatedly blocked the United Nations Security Council's attempts to halt the violence, accusing the U.S. and its allies of trying to start another war.

                        Now the Russian Black Sea fleet's Iman tanker has arrived in the Syrian port of Tartus on the Mediterranean Sea with an anti-terror squad from the Russian Marines aboard according to the Interfax news agency. The Assad government has insisted it is fighting a terrorist insurgency.



                        The Iman replaced another Russian ship "which had been sent to Syria for demonstrating (sic) the Russian presence in the turbulent region and possible evaluation of Russian citizens," the Black Sea Fleet told Interfax.

                        RIA Novosti, a news outlet with strong ties to the Kremlin, trumpeted the news in a banner headline that appeared only on its Arabic language website. The Russian embassy to the US and to the UN had no comment, saying they have "no particular information on" the arrival of a Russian anti-terrorism squad to Syria.

                        Moscow has long enjoyed a cozy relationship with the Assad regime, to which it sells billions of dollars of weapons. In return Russia has maintained a Navy base at Tartus, which gives it access to the Mediterranean.

                        Last week Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Russia had no plans to send troops to Syria.

                        "As for the question whether I consider it necessary to confront the United States in Syria and ensure our military presence there… in order to take part in military actions -- no. I believe this would be against Russia's national interests," Lavrov told lawmakers, according to RIA Novosti.


                        Russia's Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov denied reports that Russian special forces were operating inside Syria. He did say, however, that there are Russian military and technical advisors in the country.

                        U.S. State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland said the U.S. government had not heard of the reports of Russian troops in Syria and declined to comment.


                        Is this what one would call a tripwire?
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                        • #13
                          It is obvious that Syria has to go first...how else can we clear a path for the Israeli invasion of Iran?
                          "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                          • #14
                            so how you like that terminator bool****
                            To us, it is the BEAST.

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