Republican politician's moving speech in favor of gay marriage.

[MrFun]

After all, Obama's Justice Deptartment notoriously defended Don't Ask, Don't Tell by using the "slippery slope" argument.

So under what president did the DADT get overturned?

[MrFun]

Democrats have not supported gay rights very vigorously just like Republicans have not supported right to life very vigorously.

Both parties know that as long as they do this, they have a politically active component of the electorate captured.

JM

Democrats at times need to have a stronger spine in standing up for equal rights for gays, but they definitely have a far better record than Republicans.

[Jon Miller]

Democrats at times need to have a stronger spine in standing up for equal rights for gays, but they definitely have a far better record than Republicans.

They have a far better record acting for gay rights than Republicans do for the right to life?

Hmm, I think I might agree, but maybe approving a gay soldier is on the same level as attacking Planned Parenthood?

JM

[Jon Miller]

Democrats at times need to have a stronger spine in standing up for equal rights for gays, but they definitely have a far better record than Republicans.

They have a far better record acting for gay rights than Republicans do for the right to life?

Hmm, I think I might agree, but maybe approving a gay soldier is on the same level as attacking Planned Parenthood?

JM

[Imran Siddiqui]

So under what president did the DADT get overturned?

So you think its ok to compare gay marriage to marrying animals? Because that's what Obama's Justice Department did. How's DOMA doing, btw?

[molly bloom]

Interracial marriage didn't conflict with the basic definition of marriage that has existed for thousands of years.

Which 'basic definition' is that ?

Where can it be found ?

Is it culture specific, religion specific, civilization specific ?

[MrFun]

So you think its ok to compare gay marriage to marrying animals? Because that's what Obama's Justice Department did. How's DOMA doing, btw?

I was not aware of someone in Obama's Justice Department making such a slur remark. Last heard with Obama and DOMA, the Obama administration is refusing to defend DOMA when it's challenged in the court system.

[Imran Siddiqui]

What do you mean "someone". It was the official position of the Justice Department!! In their court filings! You, are so up on gay rights news didn't catch this?

[giblets]

So you think its ok to compare gay marriage to marrying animals? Because that's what Obama's Justice Department did. How's DOMA doing, btw?

When did this happen?

[Imran Siddiqui]

My apologies, it was defense of DOMA and incest (though I seem to remember some beastiality discussion):

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/06/obama-justice-department-defends-defense-of-marriage-act-that-candidate-obama-opposed/

But many arguments being made by the Obama administration are meeting with some outrage by supporters of same sex marriage – and not just because of the administration’s arguments in the brief in support of a law the president said he opposed while seeking gay and lesbian votes.

Writing at Americablog John Aravosis cited a passage saying that “the First and Second Restatements of Conflict of Laws recognize that State courts may refuse to give effect to a marriage, or to certain incidents of a marriage, that contravene the forum State's policy…And the courts have widely held that certain marriages performed elsewhere need not be given effect, because they conflicted with the public policy of the forum.”

The Obama administration cited Catalano v. Catalano (marriage of uncle to niece, "though valid in Italy under its laws, was not valid in Connecticut because it contravened the public policy of th[at] state"); Wilkins v. Zelichowski (marriage of 16-year-old female held invalid in New Jersey, regardless of validity in Indiana where performed, in light of N.J. policy reflected in statute permitting adult female to secure annulment of her underage marriage), and re Mortenson's Estate, (marriage of first cousins held invalid in Arizona, though lawfully performed in New Mexico, given Arizona policy reflected in statute declaring such marriages "prohibited and void").

“Holy cow,” wrote Aravosis. “Obama invoked incest and people marrying children.”

[MrFun]

Here is some more news about our "homophobic" president.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/0...e-sex-couples/

[MrFun]

Obviously someone who refuses to defend anti-gay laws hates gay people.

[Wezil]

Damn, I am so glad my identity isn't determined by where I desire to put my dick. It must be awful to be so one dimensional.

[giblets]

What are you doing with that weasel you're holding?

[Wezil]

It's a ferret and I'm restraining him from tearing your face off.