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Originally posted by Tupac Shakur View PostThere's nothing "alternative" about the history in Albie's OP. It's the mainstream historical consensus that the Texas Revolution was fought over slavery and the Mexican-American War was a transparent imperial landgrab.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostAs someone pointed out on poly a while ago (don't remember when), the Texans imported Tennesseans at the Alamo and still lost. Texas
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Originally posted by gribbler View PostWow, I don't understand how they could be outnumbered ten to one and still lose if they had a couple of Tennesseans."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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Originally posted by Dinner View PostIndeed. That is the status quo historical concensus and has been since around the period in question."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
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Yeah, well Southerners still like to claim the Civil War wasn't about slavery even though the VP of the Confederacy named it as THE primary reason for secession in his inaugural address. Not to mention all the historical documents which confirm Southerners had an irrational fear that Lincoln was going to steal all of their slaves despite the fact that he had repeatedly said he wasn't and had made no moves against slavery before Southerners plunged the country into war. It's kind of like how modern right wing conservatives keep insisting Obama is going to steal all of their guns despite the fact that all Obama has done is expand gun rights. Southerners have a massive irrational looney tunes streak in their culture. "It's true because I want it to be true/think it should be true even though all the evidence points to the exact opposite conclusion."Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by SlowwHand View PostA new low has been identified. As we discussed, Moron, Imbecile, Idiot and the new low, Alby.
Alby, Spain gave authorization for Texas to be colonized and act as a buffer between Comanches and Mexico.
It wasn't out of the goodness of their heart."I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
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Originally posted by Dinner View PostYeah, well Southerners still like to claim the Civil War wasn't about slavery even though the VP of the Confederacy named it as THE primary reason for secession in his inaugural address. Not to mention all the historical documents which confirm Southerners had an irrational fear that Lincoln was going to steal all of their slaves despite the fact that he had repeatedly said he wasn't and had made no moves against slavery before Southerners plunged the country into war. It's kind of like how modern right wing conservatives keep insisting Obama is going to steal all of their guns despite the fact that all Obama has done is expand gun rights. Southerners have a massive irrational looney tunes streak in their culture. "It's true because I want it to be true/think it should be true even though all the evidence points to the exact opposite conclusion.""I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003
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There were a number of issues actually. Settlers from the US were actually held by contract to grow food crops, but many of them grew cotton instead. The Mexican government had begun arresting some of those who violated their contracts. Three were also arrests of slaveowners. Santa Anna pushed through a new constitition giving him the power to elect governors."I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
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I don't think people have to be apologists or revisionists. We can all have our own opinions no matter how wrong.
I'm with Albie and Pac on the actual causes of revolution. Follow the money.What can make a nigga wanna fight a whole night club/Figure that he ought to maybe be a pimp simply 'cause he don't like love/What can make a nigga wanna achy, break all rules/In a book when it took a lot to get you hooked up to this volume/
What can make a nigga wanna loose all faith in/Anything that he can't feel through his chest wit sensation
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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View PostThere were a number of issues actually.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by Pax View PostI don't think people have to be apologists or revisionists. We can all have our own opinions no matter how wrong.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View PostSad that some can't see nuance and have to reduce it to one or the other.
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So it is better to hew to one side of the black vs. white divide than to attempt a nuanced view at history? That seems to be to be submitting to the beast because "you have to". I imagine a better way.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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