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  • #61
    Ron Paul isn't a serious candidate. Why are y'all discussing him like he is?

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    • #62
      Seriously. If Ron Paul wins in Iowa, all it means is that Iowa has managed to completely drive itself into irrelevance.
      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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      • #63
        Originally posted by gribbler View Post
        Even if he's a racist he's still the best candidate in the Republican field
        Really? You'd rather have him as President than Romney or Huntsman? Are you sure about that?
        If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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        • #64
          Originally posted by Felch View Post
          I'd prefer a candidate who wasn't trying to bankrupt America with endless wars. But if you think we should choose a president based on decades old bull**** conjecture, then feel free to go on being a part of the problem.
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          • #65
            You know, continual wars of attrition with Persia was a major cause in the downfall of Rome. Led to budget problems which forced the debasement of Roman currency.

            I just had a discussion elsewhere about the causes of Roman decline so the comparison seemed apt.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
              Really? You'd rather have him as President than Romney or Huntsman? Are you sure about that?
              Pulling out of the middle east instead of doing Israel's bidding so another 9/11 doesn't happen

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              • #67
                Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                Pulling out of the middle east instead of doing Israel's bidding so another 9/11 doesn't happen
                No Department of Education or Environmental Protection Agency.
                "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                • #68
                  Indeed. The most relevant thing about Paul isn't that he'd pull out of the middle east, but that he'd pull out of the US.

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                  • #69
                    Of course, someone like gribbler is going to say his chances of successfully gutting those agencies are nil but so are his chances of taking US foreign policy back to the Washington administration.
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                    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                      No Department of Education or Environmental Protection Agency.
                      Explain to me what is so great about the Department of Education.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
                        Ron Paul isn't a serious candidate. Why are y'all discussing him like he is?
                        How is he not a serious candidate? He's polling well in key states, raising plenty of money, and has an excellent ground game in the campaign. Romney and the rest have hollow support. Ron Paul actually generates excitement in his supporters. Excitement is what gets people to the polls, which is especially important in low turnout primaries and caucuses.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Felch View Post
                          How is he not a serious candidate?
                          He's polling at an average of 12.4% nationwide. And looses to Obama by an average of 7.7% according to polling.
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                          • #73
                            Gary Johnson is apparently pulling out of the race to run as Libertarian candidate. That might limit Pauls options.

                            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1161760.html

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                              He's polling at an average of 12.4% nationwide. And looses to Obama by an average of 7.7% according to polling.
                              The only polls that really matter at this point are for the early states. Clinton had twice Obama's national support in December of 2007, but Obama's wins in Iowa and South Carolina gave him the momentum he needed to secure the nomination. If Paul wins in Iowa, he could very easily have a bump in time for NH and SC. He's a long shot, but there's definitely a plausible scenario where Ron Paul wins the nomination.
                              John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                              • #75
                                DD only believes and cites polls for the brief moment they might support his inane views. Otherwise, he just makes **** up.
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