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  • Its clearly the right time to slash the social safety net

    Originally posted by HP
    1 In 45 U.S. Children Are Homeless

    One in 45 children in the USA — 1.6 million children — were living on the street, in homeless shelters or motels, or doubled up with other families last year, according to the National Center on Family Homelessness.

    The numbers represent a 33% increase from 2007, when there were 1.2 million homeless children, according to a report the center is releasing Tuesday.

    "This is an absurdly high number," says Ellen Bassuk, president of the center. "What we have new in 2010 is the effects of a man-made disaster caused by the economic recession. … We are seeing extreme budget cuts, foreclosures and a lack of affordable housing."

    The report paints a bleaker picture than one by the Department of Housing and Urban Development, which nonetheless reported a 28% increase in homeless families, from 131,000 in 2007 to 168,000 in 2010.

    Dennis Culhane, a University of Pennsylvania professor of social policy, says HUD's numbers are much smaller because they count only families living on the street or in emergency shelters.

    "It is a narrower standard of homelessness," he says. However, Culhane says, "the bottom line is we've shown an increase in the percentage of homeless families."

    The study, a state-by-state report card, looks at four years' worth of Education Department data. It assesses how homeless children fare based on factors including the state's wages, poverty and foreclosure rates, cost of housing and its programs for homeless families.

    The states where homeless children fare the best are Vermont, Minnesota, Nebraska, North Dakota and Maine.

    It finds the worst states for homeless children are Southern states where poverty is high, including Alabama, Mississippi and Arkansas, and states decimated by foreclosures and job losses, such as Arizona, California and Nevada.

    At the First Light shelter in Birmingham, Ala., the fastest-growing group is women with children, executive director Ruth Crosby says. She says the emergency shelter, which houses about 125 women and children, is full every night. An overflow room with mats on the floor fills up every night, too.

    "We try not to turn people away," Crosby says. "Poverty in Alabama is severe at best. We were already in dire straights, and then you get the economy. It's kept us on the bottom."

    Shelly Jordan, a case manager for the homeless in Hattiesburg, Miss., says it has become common for two-parent households or families headed by professionals to turn to the city's lone homeless shelter.

    "People had savings or unemployment and that's run out," she says. "This is their last resort."

    A small portion of homeless households with children, 4,355, are headed by veterans. That's less than 5% of the veterans who are homeless.

    The number of homeless veterans fell 12% from 76,329 in 2010 to 67,495 this year, according to a report released Tuesday by HUD and the Department of Veterans Affairs.

    Housing Secretary Shaun Donovan credits the decline to more rental assistance and programs to get veterans into permanent housing.
    Good show GOP, this is clearly the time to push ahead with your draconian, workhouse plans to strip away the last vestiges of protection from Americas poor. Merry xmas you evil ****s.

  • #2
    The least you could do was make a direct connection. Lazy dumb ass.
    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
    RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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    • #3
      If you can't see the rather obvious direct connection between the GOP wanting to slash SS, Medicare, Unemployment benefits and a whole host of other safety net items at a time when we're seeing a huge rise in the number of kids without homes, then you need ****ing glasses.

      *EDIT

      Reworded to clarify.
      Last edited by kentonio; December 13, 2011, 09:24.

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      • #4
        Rah is a supply sider. He doesn't need glasses.
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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        • #5
          Now was that that hard? But that article seems to blame the economy. Do you feel that unemployment benefits should never run out? There should be some incentive for people to at least look for work.
          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • #6
            Originally posted by kentonio View Post
            Merry xmas you evil ****s.
            Why thank you. Merry Christmas to you as well.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #7
              Welfare needs overhauling, for damned sure.
              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
              "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rah View Post
                Now was that that hard? But that article seems to blame the economy.
                Which is fair enough, it always comes back to the economy in the end.

                Originally posted by rah View Post
                Do you feel that unemployment benefits should never run out? There should be some incentive for people to at least look for work.
                Over here they last until someone gets a job, but those people have to show on a fortnightly basis that they have been looking for work and provide evidence of that. After they have been unemployed for something like 6 months they then enter schemes designed to retrain or find placements for them. Its not a perfect system, but its a lot better than just cutting it off at a set date. If you're unemployed and honestly can't find a new job, what are you supposed to do when suddenly your last financial support is gone?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rah View Post
                  Do you feel that unemployment benefits should never run out? There should be some incentive for people to at least look for work.
                  Research does tend to suggest a correlation between workers finding a job and the length of UI benefits as it tends to happen as benefits expire.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #10
                    Even here you're required to show that you're looking for work but it is easily scammed. There are many people that do this. Also you're not required to take a job that is beneath what you were doing in order to stay qualified. So executives that are laid off with no obvious skills can stay on the dole until the benefits run out before they have to take a lesser job. Extending their benefits makes no sense to me. I don't think it's governments role to guarantee that everyone has a good paying job.
                    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                    RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                      After they have been unemployed for something like 6 months they then enter schemes designed to retrain or find placements for them.
                      This makes your system better than ours as we've been supporting some people on the program for nearly 2 years with nothing like that.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                        Which is fair enough, it always comes back to the economy in the end.



                        Over here they last until someone gets a job, but those people have to show on a fortnightly basis that they have been looking for work and provide evidence of that. After they have been unemployed for something like 6 months they then enter schemes designed to retrain or find placements for them. Its not a perfect system, but its a lot better than just cutting it off at a set date. If you're unemployed and honestly can't find a new job, what are you supposed to do when suddenly your last financial support is gone?
                        Get a gun and take it from those who have the money

                        edit: or die trying :rip:
                        Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                        GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave View Post
                          Get a gun and take it from those who have the money
                          How do you get a gun? It takes money to make money in this case.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rah View Post
                            Extending their benefits makes no sense to me. I don't think it's governments role to guarantee that everyone has a good paying job.
                            From a purely pragmatic standpoint, the reason it makes sense to me is because unemployed people with no money or way to support themselves are a horrible negative effect on society as a whole. Personally I also have strong emotional feelings about not letting people suffer needlessly, but even from just an economic point of view those people don't just disappear from society. One way or another they have to feed themselves and live somewhere, and unless you want to see a big rise in crime and a general breakdown in social conditions, society needs to provide some form of support for the most needy.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                              How do you get a gun? It takes money to make money in this case.
                              well, fortunately in the US there are plety of guns, so if you were smart you got one for safety before you are broke.
                              Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                              GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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