Government Employees Are the Scum of the Earth

[Sava]

Your father was a useless overpaid **** just like my mother. is. **** government workers.

I'm not worried. A house will fall on you some day.

[Kuciwalker]

Dare I speak to someone who doesn't live in the real world.

Dude, calculating public sector pension liabilities is my job.

But your analysis of government "benefits" doesn't take into account health care...

Yes, which is why I explicitly stated I was talking about pension benefits, ****. Right there in the first sentence.

where insurance companies will refuse to cover or reimburse almost anything.

I'm going to go out on a limb and bet that the NYC self-insures its medical benefits.

[Kuciwalker]

It's a common tactic of managers of government agencies and large institutions (even privately-held institutions) to increase benefits by back-loading them in fat pensions. That way, in the short term, the institution/agency looks thrifty with quality employees at low salaries. Eventually, after the manager retires, the pensions start coming due leaving the institution insolvent. Your anger at the beneficiaries of the pensions is mis-directed, you should be angry at management that created the problem for short-term, partisan, personal, political gain.

This doesn't actually work. The most widely used actuarial method for public pensions (Entry Age Normal) generally front-loads benefits.

[KrazyHorse]

Only sava could think that ignoring medical leads to an OVERSTATEMENT of the increase in government worker remuneration over the last generation.

[Hauldren Collider]

I wonder if the same dynamic exists at the state government level, since I've heard that federal government employees (while still spoiled) tend to get less lavish benefits than their state counterparts because they aren't allowed to collectively bargain.

This depends on the state. Collective bargaining for public employees is illegal in Virginia.

[Kuciwalker]

the same management that raids said funds

This can't actually happen, except possibly in exceptional cases of fraud. Assets in pension trusts are untouchable.

[Tupac Shakur]

This depends on the state. Collective bargaining for public employees is illegal in Virginia.

Virginia

Wisconsin

[Sava]

Dude, calculating public sector pension liabilities is my job.

Haha, that's so cute.

I'm going to go out on a limb and bet that the NYC self-insures its medical benefits.

It's pretty much the same laundry list of **** providers as IL.

Again... live in the real world for a few decades and get back to me.

[Hauldren Collider]

Virginia

Wisconsin

Fun fact: it was a Democrat governor who made public-sector collective bargaining illegal in VA.

L Douglas Wilder

[Sava]

This can't actually happen, except possibly in exceptional cases of fraud.

But it does. And it is. But somehow, they never go to jail.

[Docfeelgood]

I think I've done enough explaining to you for one night. Thank you for providing a demonstration of the competence of the average government employee, though.

You whine so much you are starting to sound like a ambulance.

[KrazyHorse]

**** government workers.

[Kuciwalker]

But it does. And it is. But somehow, they never go to jail.

No, it really doesn't.

[Kuciwalker]

"Insurance providers" for a self-insured plan are basically just misnamed claims administrators.

[Jon Miller]

Yeah, and my mom works for the province of QC. She is a useless **** and she gets paid 75k a year to teach kindergarten. Nowhere in the private sector could she possibly get paid that much. **** government workers.

That is a lot to teach kindergarten.

I don't think US renumeration levels are so high, at least for non administrators/special needs teachers.

I know that my mom works as a public employee, had to tap her pensions because of being unemployed earlier (her program to help out troubled teen girls was cut), and currently makes less than 40k (I think) despite being in her 50s.

Some public employees get paid too much just like private employees. One side rails against the CEOs/etc, the other side rails against the overpayed public school teachers/etc.

JM
(public school teachers are not a very highly paid profession, despite being paid more than they are valued by society)