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  • #16
    Originally posted by kentonio View Post
    directly breaching the 5th amendment
    ?
    Unbelievable!

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    • #17
      Can someone tell me what kentonio is talking about? Unless you're in gitmo, the cops have to charge you with something and give you a trial or let you go.
      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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      • #18
        He's talking about the National Defense Authorization Act

        Measures would mandate military custody for noncitizens even if arrested on American soil, and permit indefinite detention without trial, even for citizens.

        A related provision would create a federal statute saying the government has the legal authority to keep people suspected of terrorism in military custody, indefinitely and without trial. It contains no exception for American citizens. It is intended to bolster the authorization to use military force against the perpetrators of the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, which lawmakers enacted a decade ago.

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        • #19
          Does the law apply to people within the borders of the US? Because if it does there probably isn't a single federal judge who would consider it constitutional.
          If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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          • #20
            I don't know, Bush put some of them on the bench.

            Do we know, has Obama put similar people on the bench?

            JM
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
              Does the law apply to people within the borders of the US? Because if it does there probably isn't a single federal judge who would consider it constitutional.
              It says in the article that it applies to people in US territory.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                This sounds like an Asher thing to me.
                Yes, only Canadians truly understand what is going on in your country.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                • #23
                  Wow. That's even worse than our rule which allows detention for 28 days in similar circumstances.

                  Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                  Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                  We've got both kinds

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                    Shouldn't it be an American starting a thread discussing the death of your democracy really, or are you all too busy reading about the Kardashians?
                    Democracy never really took in the first place, and we're talking about whether or not I'm getting dumber.
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                      Does the law apply to people within the borders of the US? Because if it does there probably isn't a single federal judge who would consider it constitutional.
                      Don't you find it somewhat scary though that your elected representatives just voted to give away your freedom, leaving it to either Obama to veto or to unelected judges to overturn that decision? I'm not even being partisan here either, as it was a bipartisan vote in favour.

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                      • #26
                        Congress has been passing unconstitutional laws since John Adams was president. The Supreme Court generally does a good job of overturning them. It does not concern me very much.

                        Consider: We used to have legal slavery in this country. You used to be able to own another person. The United States today is less of a police state than it used to be, not more.
                        If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
                        ){ :|:& };:

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                        • #27
                          Funny how when its 2nd amendment stuff, people are happy to scream and shout about protection from tyranny, and yet when tyranny is introduced openly via congress hardly anyone has a problem with it. Sad..

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                          • #28
                            As long as they treat non-citizens like animals why should citizens be any different?
                            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                              Consider: We used to have legal slavery in this country. You used to be able to own another person. The United States today is less of a police state than it used to be, not more.
                              I don't know why, but I'm mildly amused that you are using early-19th century American standards on slavery as a benchmark for whether current freedoms are being eroded.
                              One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                              • #30
                                It passed (on the anniversary of the Bill of Rights ), and it looks like Obama is no longer going to veto.

                                http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1152114.html

                                Better hope the Supreme Court that brought you Citizens United is now going to suddenly start protecting you again.

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