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  • #31
    Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post

    Note that the premise of this thread is ignoring a news outlet because it doesn't share your biases.
    Actually, no. The literate would notice that what it is actually about is that conservatives are more likely to be mislead by Fox news.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
      Something wrong with the Washington Post?

      Oh, are you going to pretend it's a conservative newspaper again?
      The op-ed pages are undeniably conservative, the reporting itself is fairly centrist but from what I understand it's been drifting right for years.
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      • #33
        If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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        • #34
          *shrug*

          In the mid-1970s, some conservatives called The Washington Post "Pravda on the Potomac" due to its perceived left-wing bias in both reporting and editorials,[25] This characterization referred to the official newspaper of the Soviet communist party. Since then, the appellation has been used by both liberal and conservative critics of The Post.[26][27] In 1963, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover reportedly told President Lyndon B. Johnson, "I don't have much influence with The Post because I frankly don't read it. I view it like the Daily Worker."[28][29]

          As Katharine Graham noted in her autobiography Personal History, the paper long had a policy of not making endorsements for political candidates. However, since at least 2000, The Washington Post has occasionally endorsed Republican politicians, such as Maryland Governor Robert Ehrlich.[30] In 2006, it repeated its historic endorsements of every Republican incumbent for Congress in Northern Virginia.[31] There have also been times when The Post has specifically chosen not to endorse any candidate, such as in the 1988 presidential election when it refused to endorse then Governor Michael Dukakis or then Vice President George H.W. Bush.[32] On October 17, 2008, The Post endorsed Barack Obama for President of the United States.[33]

          The Post's editorial positions on foreign policy and economic issues have seen a definitively conservative bent: it steadfastly supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq, warmed to President George W. Bush's proposal to partially privatize Social Security, opposed a deadline for U.S. withdrawal from the Iraq War, and advocated free trade agreements, including CAFTA.[citation needed]

          In "Buying the War" on PBS, Bill Moyers noted 27 editorials supporting George W. Bush's ambitions to invade Iraq. National security correspondent Walter Pincus reported that he had been ordered to cease his reports that were critical of Republican administrations.[34]

          In 1992, the PBS investigative news program Frontline suggested that The Post had moved to the right in response to its smaller, more conservative rival The Washington Times, which is owned by News World Communications, an international media conglomerate owned by the Unification Church which also owns newspapers in South Korea, Japan, and South America. The program quoted Paul Weyrich, one of the founders of the conservative activist organization the Moral Majority, as saying "The Washington Post became very arrogant and they just decided that they would determine what was news and what wasn't news and they wouldn't cover a lot of things that went on. And The Washington Times has forced The Post to cover a lot of things that they wouldn't cover if the Times wasn't in existence."[35] In 2008, Thomas F. Roeser of the Chicago Daily Observer also mentioned competition from the Washington Times as a factor moving The Post to the right.[36]

          On March 26, 2007, Chris Matthews said on his television program, "Well, The Washington Post is not the liberal newspaper it was, Congressman, let me tell you. I have been reading it for years and it is a neocon newspaper".[37] It has regularly published an ideological mixture of op-ed columnists, some of them left-leaning (including E.J. Dionne, Ezra Klein, Greg Sargent, and Eugene Robinson), and some on the right (including George Will, Marc Thiessen, Robert Kagan, Robert Samuelson, Michael Gerson, and Charles Krauthammer).

          In November 2007, The Post was criticized by independent journalist Robert Parry for reporting on anti-Obama chain e-mails without sufficiently emphasizing to its readers the false nature of the anonymous claims.[38] In 2009, Parry criticized The Post for its allegedly unfair reporting on liberal politicians, including Vice President Al Gore and President Barack Obama.[39]

          In a November 19, 2008 column, The Washington Post ombudsman Deborah Howell stated: "I'll bet that most Post journalists voted for Obama. I did. There are centrists at The Post as well. But the conservatives I know here feel so outnumbered that they don't even want to be quoted by name in a memo".[40] Responding to criticism of the newspaper's coverage during the run-up to the 2008 presidential election, Howell wrote: "The opinion pages have strong conservative voices; the editorial board includes centrists and conservatives; and there were editorials critical of Obama. Yet opinion was still weighted toward Obama. It's not hard to see why conservatives feel disrespected".[40]

          Commentator Glenn Greenwald has called its Op-Ed page the "leading outlet for neoconservative and related right-wing advocacy".[41]
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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          • #35
            The Post Op-Ed section is pretty balanced. It's got Krauthammer, but also EJ Dionne and Eugene Robinson.

            EDIT: Just saw that Asher's wall of text included those names. Point still stands. The WaPo is a centrist establishment newspaper.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by rah View Post
              Well the bar was set quite low.

              I watch fox news every now and then. I think everyone should. Anyone that relies on a single source for news is more likely to acquire a similar bias as the source. By watching many you get a better all around picture. And fox news can be really entertaining.
              No one should ever watch Fox Noise just as none should ever bother with Pravda. Fox is actually worse than Pravda because it lies much more more often.
              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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