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    Pakinsanity: Now Even Being an Active Anti-American Terrorist Doesn’t Make You Off-Limits for The Obama Administration

    By Barry Rubin
    Even the New York Times is shocked. Here’s how the story begins:

    “Just a month after accusing Pakistan’s spy agency of secretly supporting the Haqqani terrorist network, which has mounted attacks on Americans, the Obama administration is now relying on the same intelligence service to help organize and kick-start reconciliation talks aimed at ending the war in Afghanistan.”
    There are two problems here:

    --Despite massive financial aid, Pakistan has proven to be unreliable in fighting terrorists or helping the United States capture them. It is also a major sponsor of terrorism. In Afghanistan, it has worked secretly with the Taliban and other violent Islamist groups.

    So why is the United States making that country the centerpiece of its Afghanistan plans? Note the parallel to making the hostile Islamist Turkish regime the manager of its Syria policy. It’s also coddling up to the Muslim Brotherhood as well. If it weren’t for the power of pro-Israel sentiment in the country, I’d bet the Obama Administration would be making nice with Hamas and Hizballah as well.

    --The Administration is also ready to deal with the Taliban, remember that it was an enabler for the September 11 attack, and the Haqqani network, a group close to al-Qaida and one that is very active in terrorism against Americans, including a recent assault on the U.S. embassy in Pakistan and now a suicide bomber attack killing ten Americans in Kabul.

    As usual, double-talk is employed to make this absurd policy sound reasonable. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton calls it, “Fight, Talk, Build.” The United States will attack Haqqani while trying to get it to negotiate.
    Aside from an ideology that portrays the United States as a minion of Satan (a serious barrier to becoming friends), the Haqqani and their Pakistani sponsors know that the United States is leaving any way. So why not just outwait the attacks? Moreover, the United States is not able to hit them hard enough to make a difference.

    Or as the New York Times puts it so well, Pakistan’s powerful intelligence chieftains, “see little advantage in forcing those negotiations, because they see the insurgents as perhaps their best bet for maintaining influence in Afghanistan as the United States reduces its presence there.”

    As senseless policies and failures proliferate, dissent grows inside the administration. A “senior American official” summarized the Pakistani position as “Cease-fire, Talk, Wait for the Americans to Leave.”
    In sharp contrast to Iraq, Afghanistan is likely to collapse in bloodshed after the U.S. departure and a radical, probably Islamist, and anti-American regime will come to power. That would be still another monument to the Obama Administration policy of rewarding enemies and punishing friends.
    "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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    being inclusive
    Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
    GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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    • #3
      Yeah, baffles me too. I say nook em all
      But seriously, we should just bomb the **** out of waziristan and then pull out like we did in vietnam, only this time it might work.
      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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      • #4
        afghanistan has been a dismal failure and we should have left many years ago. even now, 10 years later, we can't come up with a sensible policy. we should leave without delay, the western presence there is only making things worse.

        But seriously, we should just bomb the **** out of waziristan and then pull out like we did in vietnam, only this time it might work.
        maybe al queda should bomb the **** out of fairfax county and then retire from terrrorism.
        "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

        "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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        • #5
          It's hard to negotiate with the Taliban with out an intermediary.
          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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          • #6
            It might be an American peculiarity to be outraged at such things, because in the rest of the world governments are not expected to take specific moral high grounds. The do not divide other governments and other organizations into "good" and "bad", but into "currently useful" and "currently useless".
            Graffiti in a public toilet
            Do not require skill or wit
            Among the **** we all are poets
            Among the poets we are ****.

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            • #7
              Barry Rubin

              Of all of the racist Jews, he's by far my favourite and most prolific.

              Good find, Zevico!
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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              • #8
                Originally posted by onodera View Post
                It might be an American peculiarity to be outraged at such things, because in the rest of the world governments are not expected to take specific moral high grounds. The do not divide other governments and other organizations into "good" and "bad", but into "currently useful" and "currently useless".
                Yeah, having a government that isn't basically just a glorified organized crime syndicate might have something to do with that.
                If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
                ){ :|:& };:

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
                  It's hard to negotiate with the Taliban with out an intermediary.
                  Helpful reminder.
                  In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                    Yeah, having a government that isn't basically just a glorified organized crime syndicate might have something to do with that.
                    Yah, ours isn't what I'd call "organized"...

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                    • #11
                      Yeah, I'd agree. The Filipino government doesn't seem all that capable.
                      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
                      ){ :|:& };:

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                      • #12
                        Neither does ours... I guess a liberal like you wants them running everything though... no reasoning with you commies is there?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                          Yeah, having a government that isn't basically just a glorified organized crime syndicate might have something to do with that.
                          Kissinger in his book says it's a specifically American trait of confusing politics and morals. Nothing (other than Watergate) Nixon did was unusual for a leader of any other country, and look how the USA remembers him.
                          Graffiti in a public toilet
                          Do not require skill or wit
                          Among the **** we all are poets
                          Among the poets we are ****.

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                          • #14
                            He is remembered as the man who opened up trade with China, and as China is just about to roll over the US, his revenge is soon going to be complete from beyond the grave. Nixon
                            Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                            GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                            • #15
                              Yeah, imagine America funding someone like Osama Bin-Laden!!!

                              Oh hang on.
                              Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                              Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
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