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    WASHINGTON — Republican frontrunner Mitt Romney sidestepped a controversy over his Mormon faith at a summit of Christian conservatives Saturday a day after being attacked as "not a Christian."
    Romney focused his speech to the Values Voter Summit mainly on President Barack Obama's economic and foreign policy, making no mention of his own Mormon religion and only a few references to God.
    But the former Massachusetts governor appeared to allude to the previous day's controversy in a passage in which he called for decency and civility and warned: "Poisonous language does not advance our cause."
    "The blessings of faith carry the responsibility of civil and respectful debate," Romney said. "The task before us to focus on the conservative beliefs and the values that unite us -- let no agenda, narrow our vision or drive us apart."
    Friday, Texas pastor Robert Jeffress made headlines at the gathering when he put down the Mormon Church as a cult and said Romney "is not a Christian."
    Jeffress made the remarks shortly after introducing Texas Governor Rick Perry, Romney's main rival, to the audience as "a genuine follower of Jesus Christ."
    Christian conservatives are a powerful constituency of the Republican party and their support seen as crucial to winning the party's presidential nomination.
    But Perry has slipped behind Romney in the polls, hurt by wobbly performances in recent debates and his support for in-state tuition for children of illegal immigrants.
    Romney, meanwhile, stuck closely to his favorite campaign themes -- the troubled economy and Obama's foreign policy -- to polite applause from the Christian conservatives gathered here.
    "Last week, the CEO of Coca-Cola said that the business environment in China is better than that here in the United States," he said. "China! If that is not an indictment of the Obama administration and of Washington, what is?"
    "It's time to let a conservative businessman take the reins of government to make sure that America, not China, is the economic powerhouse of the world!" he said.
    Romney also touched on some of the social issues that the Christian right most cares about, vowing to defend federal laws defining marriage as a union between a man and woman and bans on federal funding for abortion.
    "We must continue to welcome faith into the public square and allow it to flourish," he said. "Our government should respect religious values, not silence them. We will always pledge our allegiance to a nation under God."
    Source: AFP

    Which is a bigger threat to Romney's nomination, being part of the wrong jesus cult or his lack of sincerity on issues like abortion?

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    politicians that don´t appeal to the general public´s desires, no matter how irrational or impossible, don´t get elected.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Zoetstofzoetje View Post
      politicians that don´t appeal to the general public´s desires, no matter how irrational or impossible, don´t get elected.
      You are ever the optimist!

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      • #4
        you´re an idiot

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Zoetstofzoetje View Post
          you´re an idiot
          ****!

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          • #6
            ninco!

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            • #7
              Mormons are not christians. Some people don't know that yet. A mormon won't be president or nominee.
              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                Mormons are not christians. Some people don't know that yet. A mormon won't be president or nominee.
                I must be confusing them with some other group that worships a "jesus christ".

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                • #9
                  Holy ****ing christ, this is rediciouluos :

                  The blessings of faith carry the responsibility of civil and respectful debate
                  With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                  Steven Weinberg

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                    I must be confusing them with some other group that worships a "jesus christ".
                    No, they don't. They just don't like to tell people that.
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                      No, they don't. They just don't like to tell people that.
                      What do they worship then? Bread and fermented grapes?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                        What do they worship then? Bread and fermented grapes?
                        An idol. They believe that a man from another planet became a god and created the earth and Jesus, that Jesus isn't eternal and isn't his father. They believe in Joseph Smith first and the bible second, which means they don't believe in the Bible or the Christian God.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                        • #13
                          Jews don't believe in either, would it be a problem if a Jew were president?
                          If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
                          ){ :|:& };:

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                            Jews don't believe in either, would it be a problem if a Jew were president?
                            Yes, but it's a bigger problem with a mormon. They target christians for conversian dishonestly. They are viewed by christians as wolves in sheep's clothing.

                            Honestly I hope he does well because then more people will know how their beliefs are unchristian.
                            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                            • #15
                              They seem pretty similar to the other Jesus cults to me. I think you're splitting hairs.

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