well i've seen a few UKIP people who i would describe as socialists. people who used to be labour but are just very hostile to the EU and so found a home in UKIP. it's often hard to make out UKIP positions on issues apart from europe, as it seems to be the one thing that unites them. as you say though they do attract a lot of nutters.
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
It's the Lib Dem part of the COALITION government. I'm sure the majority of the Conservatives are hopping mad about this!
This is why the Lib Dems are getting slaughtered in the polls ATM, your average voter is tarring them with the Tory brush despite the fact that they're quietly passing a whole bunch of distinctly un-Tory policies...
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Originally posted by MikeH View PostGreat Lib Dem WIN! Actually seeing some good Lib Dem policies coming out in the coallition.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.â€
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by MOBIUS View PostIt's not the ****ing Conservative Government you ignorant douche!
It's the Lib Dem part of the COALITION government. I'm sure the majority of the Conservatives are hopping mad about this!
This is why the Lib Dems are getting slaughtered in the polls ATM, your average voter is tarring them with the Tory brush despite the fact that they're quietly passing a whole bunch of distinctly un-Tory policies...“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.â€
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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You still mean mean "This gets no where without the support of the Conservative part of the coalition government".
This comes from a Liberal Democrat motion passed at the Liberal Democrat conference in 2010. They were the first (and only) party supporting equal status for same sex marriage, and they have now moved this through the coalition so that this will become law.
Yes, they can only do it with the support of the Conservative part of the government, but the Conservatives can only pass any of their policies with the support of the Lib Dems. People can't blame the Lib Dems for every Conservative policy that goes through with one breath, then give the Conservatives credit for every Liberal Democrat policy that goes through with the other. It's ridiculous.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
We've got both kinds
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David Cameron speaks to the Conservative Party Conference and says:
But we're also doing something else. I once stood before a Conservative conference and said it shouldn't matter whether commitment was between a man and a woman, a woman and a woman, or a man and another man. You applauded me for that. Five years on, we're consulting on legalising gay marriage.
And to anyone who has reservations, I say: Yes, it's about equality, but it's also about something else: commitment. Conservatives believe in the ties that bind us; that society is stronger when we make vows to each other and support each other. So I don't support gay marriage despite being a Conservative. I support gay marriage because I'm a Conservative.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.â€
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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While I'm sure it was pressure from the Left that made this possible, it's hard for me to read that quote from Cameron and conclude he was dragged kicking and screaming.
Bravo, Britain.
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