9/11: We remember

[Nikolai]

DaShi, show some respect and go away.

[Dr Strangelove]

Doc, there's a whole thread for your pleasure, please take it there.

This thread is for the 9-11 victims.

Right. The 100,000+ Iraqi dead fit that description. They weren't involved in conducting the attack but they died as a consequence.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Thoughts and prayers. Many heroic stories that day, including the story in the WaPo regarding the F16 pilots scrambled and determined to kamikazee themselves (as they had no armaments on board) into United 93 in order to prevent additional attacks. Chilling.


Edit - Good thread Matt. Shame it has been shat upon by the usual suspects.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Interestingly enough, the Revised Common Lectionary for Sunday had Bible texts all on forgiveness (for those that don't know the RCL picks lectionary of readings for each Sunday based on a three year cycle, all of which was put in place back in 1994 - so this wasn't planned based on a 9/11 anniversary date or anything). I think that will we mourn for the dead, we should do as Jesus did and forgive those who may have been our enemies then, as hard as that may be.

[MattBowron]

Thoughts and prayers. Many heroic stories that day, including the story in the WaPo regarding the F16 pilots scrambled and determined to kamikazee themselves (as they had no armaments on board) into United 93 in order to prevent additional attacks. Chilling.


Edit - Good thread Matt. Shame it has been shat upon by the usual suspects.

Thankyou everyone, SlowwHand for your contributions, Uncle Sparky for lighting a candle, Zezminz for your comment on the heroes, Ben Kenobi for your extended list of the victims of this tragic incident, thankyou EPW, Docfeelgood, mrboo123, Pekka, Jrabbit, Nickolai, Asher for your music contribution, MrFun I agree United 93 is a good film about the first Americans fighting back against the terrorists that day, gribbler, Thoth I respect your anger, Az, Barnabas, OzzyKP, DinoDoc, Berzerker, Ogie and Imran, thankyou Zevico for your information, and also to DaShi and DrStrangelove for recognising and also respecting the following victims in the US and overseas that have resulted from the events of 9/11. Peace unto all.

[MrFun]

Interestingly enough, the Revised Common Lectionary for Sunday had Bible texts all on forgiveness (for those that don't know the RCL picks lectionary of readings for each Sunday based on a three year cycle, all of which was put in place back in 1994 - so this wasn't planned based on a 9/11 anniversary date or anything). I think that will we mourn for the dead, we should do as Jesus did and forgive those who may have been our enemies then, as hard as that may be.

excellent thoughts

[The Mad Monk]

Absolutely.

[Heraclitus]

[Hauldren Collider]

We already know you don't know how to read.

Is this the best you can do in terms of retorts? This is pathetic, DaShi, and you should put more effort into your posts. Frankly, Zevico, correct or incorrect, is making extremely rational arguments based on facts and observations, while you sling mud and claim he's being ridiculous. If he's so ridiculous, do you mind explaining why you think so? It's not like he's just making blanket statements with no backing. He's making logical, reasoned arguments and you can't just dismiss him.

[giblets]

1. Why do you hate the victims and think they deserved to die????????????????
2. That guy is weird and some of the stuff he says doesn't make sense.

[giblets]

Is this the best you can do in terms of retorts? This is pathetic, DaShi, and you should put more effort into your posts. Frankly, Zevico, correct or incorrect, is making extremely rational arguments based on facts and observations, while you sling mud and claim he's being ridiculous. If he's so ridiculous, do you mind explaining why you think so? It's not like he's just making blanket statements with no backing. He's making logical, reasoned arguments and you can't just dismiss him.

His posts don't strike me as "reasoned".

[dannubis]

He blindly defends israel. That is all reason Kuci junior needs.

[Heraclitus]

He blindly defends israel. That is all reason Kuci junior needs.

Ethnocentrism? In my Apolyton poster? More likley than you think.

[DaShi]

Is this the best you can do in terms of retorts? This is pathetic, DaShi, and you should put more effort into your posts. Frankly, Zevico, correct or incorrect, is making extremely rational arguments based on facts and observations, while you sling mud and claim he's being ridiculous. If he's so ridiculous, do you mind explaining why you think so? It's not like he's just making blanket statements with no backing. He's making logical, reasoned arguments and you can't just dismiss him.

No, he's not. I've already gone through his nonsense. Yes, he is making statements with no backing. He's arguing one thing while posting articles about something else. When he does post articles on-topic, they're so biased and cherry-picked to not be worth addressing. He's the Hera of foreign policy. He's no longer worth the effort. Besides, anyone who follows the news regularly can see the flaws in his arguments.

Also, that you think he's making "logical, reasoned arguments" is more than enough evidence that he's not. Come back in twenty years.

[Thoth]

3000 people died on 9/11. They died because they were Americans--people who lived in a free and democratic society. people who lived in a society that supported (and continues to support) barbarous regimes based on terror. The group responsible, its sympathisers, and those who would see America fall for much the same reasons are still at large today. Al Qaeda, Iran, Syria, Hezballah, the Muslim Brotherhood and its equivalents in Gaza, Jordan and Syria--the Middle East is filled with nations and groups who celebrated these attacks and would celebrate them again.

Go figure. Ragheads hate you because you support the ****ty oppressive regimes that have kept most of the people in that region living in squalor while your puppets live in luxury.

The murder of Bin Laden has created an ideal litmus test for anti-American groups and activities in the region. All of the groups I named above have aligned themselves with the "martyr" Bin Laden. They do so not because the United States is the author of the Middle East's misfortunes. The Middle East's misfortunes are a product of US sponsored dictatorship, socialism and corruption.

Try learning about the Yanks' involvement in Middle Eastern affairs before you post moron. Yankeestan is hip deep in Arab blood.

They do so because they genuinely believe wish to create an ideal world--an Islamic republic or caliphate, a dicatorship really, where Islam is imposed upon society. And they believe the United Stands in the way. And they are willing to do anything--including mass murder--to achieve their aims. That is the lesson of 9/11.

Shocking. Arabs have learned that the US has been ****ing them over for better than 50 years. Is it really that shocking that they are willing to resort to mass murder when their foes in Yankeestan have never shrunk away from mass murder?

The real lesson of 9/11 is that Yanks are ignorant fools who don't understand that "as ye reap, so shall ye sow".