Social Security- a "ponzi scheme?"

[giblets]

Yeah, that sounds like a better idea.

[KrazyHorse]

Now you're coming around to the fact that unearned income shouldn't be taxed.

[Kidlicious]

Now you're coming around to the fact that unearned income shouldn't be taxed.

Then there will be two of you.

[KrazyHorse]

You're an idiot.

[Kidlicious]

You're an idiot.

That's why I don't want to pay your taxes.

[KrazyHorse]

I have no idea what you're talking about, you ******.

[Dinner]

I think capital gains should be taxes (with some limited exemptions) to encourage lazy bastards to get off of their asses and actually earn income.

Of course, I also believe corporate profits should be taxed (something which KH no doubt has nightmares about) and trade should be tariffed if the other party isn't behaving equitably (as China currently isn't) or if they don't observe the same labor, environmental, or other standards. IF businesses don't like it then they can move, but due to the tariffs they likely won't be able to sell **** to the first world so they'll be forced to actually comply or go bankrupt. The choice is theirs.

[Tupac Shakur]

CATO is one of the first right wing astroturf groups founded by the Koch brothers. Like all Koch brothers' astroturf groups it's job is to lie and spin in the popular media in order to shift public opinion towards supporting right wing policies which benefit mainly just the super rich, people like the Koch brothers. I can understand why the Kochs want public policy designed to enrich themselves but I will never understand how the dirt poor dumbasses in the trailer parks agree to back policies which are against their personal self interest.

You actually believe the "Koch Brothers" conspiracy theory?

[Kidlicious]

I have no idea what you're talking about, you ******.

You do so liar.

[KrazyHorse]

I think capital gains should be taxes (with some limited exemptions) to encourage lazy bastards to get off of their asses and actually earn income.

Of course, I also believe corporate profits should be taxed (something which KH no doubt has nightmares about) and trade should be tariffed if the other party isn't behaving equitably (like China currently isn't) or if they don't observe the same labor, environmental, or other standards. IF businesses don't like it then they can move, but due to the tariffs they likely won't be able to sell **** to the first world so they'll be forced to actually comply or go bankrupt. The choice is theirs.

Given that you have even less clue about econ than asher does, I don't care what you think should be done. I've already explained why all of these suggestions are stupid in half a dozen other threads. Feel free to educate yourself by going back and finding them. Or not.

[KrazyHorse]

You do so liar.

No, I don't. As usual, in addition to having idiotic opinions, you have also managed to express them in such an obtuse way that nobody can understand what you meant.

[Dinner]

You actually believe the "Koch Brothers" conspiracy theory?

It's not a conspiracy theory, it is simply a fact. I know you don't like facts but they're real all the same.

[Dinner]

Given that you have even less clue about econ than asher does, I don't care what you think should be done. I've already explained why all of these suggestions are stupid in half a dozen other threads. Feel free to educate yourself by going back and finding them. Or not.

Oh, I used to be a complete free trader just like you until it became clear the theory doesn't match the reality when some parties are cheating. With China manipulating it's currency to maximize it's employment they're effectively exporting unemployment just as by not enforcing environmental laws they're causing horrible damage to the rest of us (see Global Warming). When they feel like letting their currency float due to market conditions, obey reasonable labor laws & enforce little things like intellectual property laws or environmental laws, then we can talk about letting them export more rubber dog ****e to us but until then they should suffer from a 1000% tariff imposed by all western nations for cheating. Then, instead of having a race to the bottom where the worst offenders are rewarded for harming the world & their own workers we'd have a race to the top where they'd all have to choose to adapt modern standards or choose to live without trade. I'm confident they'd eventually come around to doing the right thing after they were given no viable alternative.

For the record, I want more trade but I want it on a level playing field and I want cheaters punished not rewarded. Our current system rewards cheaters, punishes the honest, and that needs to stop.

[Tupac Shakur]

It's not a conspiracy theory, it is simply a fact. I know you don't like facts but they're real all the same.

I suppose you believe everything Matt Taibbi writes, as well.

[Dinner]

I haven't read everything Matt Taibbi has written so I can't say. Of his works which I have read I have found them to be EXTREMELY well annotated and factually correct. You can disagree with the man's opinion but you can't pretend facts aren't real no matter how much you dislike them. I know how you wing nuts do like to ignore reality.