No-one should be put off going to university for financial reasons (£60k)

[Jon Miller]

Summer internships work too, though, right?

They worked for your brother of course, but I think the ~6 month type are more valuable. A lot of programs now suggest them.

JM

[loinburger]

I graduated in three years solely to avoid needing loans - it doesn't really help or hurt your resume to graduate in three, four, or five years because the information wouldn't even be conveyed on your resume, unless you do something weird like list the year you graduated high school.

[Jon Miller]

My observation is that for some things like engineering, the difference good internship experience makes is between starting with ~70k a year offers or having to search for ~40k a year offers.

I agree that for things like theology/etc or if you don't plan on doing a pre-graduate or internship, it doesn't really matter (so you should probably do it as fast as possible).

JM

[giblets]

Are you doing internships?

The 'standard' length for engineering in the US is 10, I believe.

JM

Good thing I'm not doing engineering. And I know Al didn't, if he had done engineering I wouldn't find his 9th semester comment amusing.

[Dinner]

The truth is uni is one of the best investments anyone can make.

[Hauldren Collider]

The truth is uni is one of the best investments anyone can make.

That depends on where they go and what they study and what they end up doing with their life.

[Krill]

No-one should be put off going to university for financial reasons (£60k)

I agree, student loans should be freely available.

In the UK, the cost of going to university due to the payback method actually means it isn't actually profitable unless you get a really well paying job early on, and you move up the wage ladder.

[Al B. Sure!]

Good thing I'm not doing engineering. And I know Al didn't, if he had done engineering I wouldn't find his 9th semester comment amusing.

You ****ing dumbass, I didn't even declare a major until my second year! I was an 'undecided' general studies major for my first 3 semesters. If you don't come in with a major chosen or you switch majors half-way, you're bound to have to do an extra semester.

I graduated with 20 more credits than the minimum to graduate. I took what were, in retrospect, superfluous electives.

Not everyone comes out of high school knowing exactly what major they want to pursue.


Not only that but athletes also routinely take a 5th year. Are you going to criticize them as well? Some people want to spend a semester concentrating on an internship. Does the gribbler pompous scorn extend to them?

[Hauldren Collider]

Albie, you have more than your fair share of pompous scorn already, glass houses...

[giblets]

You ****ing dumbass, I didn't even declare a major until my second year! I was an 'undecided' general studies major for my first 3 semesters. If you don't come in with a major chosen or you switch majors half-way, you're bound to have to do an extra semester.

I didn't declare a major until the second year either. I think you might be the dumbass.

I graduated with 20 more credits than the minimum to graduate. I took what were, in retrospect, superfluous electives.

Not everyone comes out of high school knowing exactly what major they want to pursue.

I didn't either. Wow, you major must have had some really stringent requirements! What was it, again? A degree in Finance?
Well, just out of curiosity I went to Temple University's website:
http://www.temple.edu/bulletin/Acade...x_finance.shtm
Wow, you need a total of 21 credit hours to get a finance degree? That took you five semesters?

Not only that but athletes also routinely take a 5th year. Are you going to criticize them as well? Some people want to spend a semester concentrating on an internship. Does the gribbler pompous scorn extend to them?

No, it does not.

[Al B. Sure!]

You dumbass, there are business school requirements and university requirements.

[giblets]

I was assuming you were working on general education requirements during your first two years when you had no clue what to do.

[Al B. Sure!]

I was assuming you were working on general education requirements during your first two years when you had no clue what to do.

Are you even in college? Do you know how it works?

There are specific requirements you need to fulfill and they vary by the major. For example, the general education requires you to take at least two science and technology courses, but business requires a computer science course. If you took Physics and Chemistry, satisfying your general education requirements, but then became a business major, guess what? You need to take that comp sci class which will be your 3rd science. On and on, I took courses that only in retrospect were superfluous. With a different major, they may not have been, however.

You really show your ass routinely.

[Al B. Sure!]

Not only that but you can't always plan your classes when you ****ing work. I worked two concurrent jobs in college; one full-time and one part-time. If a class was only offered on Tuesdays and Thursdays when I worked long shifts during the schoolday, guess what? I couldn't take that class and had to postpone it til the next semester when it rotated back to a MON WED FRI schedule. Or, maybe it was offered on MWF but at 9:30, the same time as another class I needed to take. And if these classes were prerequisites for others, guess what? My whole track gets put on hold.

Really? Are you ****ing even in college? How can you be such a ****ing idiot?

Graduating in exactly 4 years or less requires 3 things: 1) knowing your major before you sign up for your first classes as a freshman, 2) flexibility to take classes whenever, with no full-time job to work your roster around, and 3) luck in squeezing into classes which fill up rapidly.

I swear, the way you talk I don't think you've ever even attended college.

[giblets]

Are you even in college? Do you know how it works?

There are specific requirements you need to fulfill and they vary by the major. For example, the general education requires you to take at least two science and technology courses, but business requires a computer science course. If you took Physics and Chemistry, satisfying your general education requirements, but then became a business major, guess what? You need to take that comp sci class which will be your 3rd science. On and on, I took courses that only in retrospect were superfluous. With a different major, they may not have been, however.

You really show your ass routinely.

Are you retarded? You would have known from the beginning what your general education requirements are. The fact that you took forever to declare a major isn't relevant. It is relevant when dealing with major specific requirements, but the website only listed 21 credit hours of requirements for Finance majors.