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    LONDON (Reuters) - Up to 70 percent of British men and half of all Western European men are related to the Egyptian Pharaoh Tutankhamun, geneticists in Switzerland said.

    Scientists at Zurich-based DNA genealogy centre, iGENEA, reconstructed the DNA profile of the boy Pharaoh, who ascended the throne at the age of nine, his father Akhenaten and grandfather Amenhotep III, based on a film that was made for the Discovery Channel.

    The results showed that King Tut belonged to a genetic profile group, known as haplogroup R1b1a2, to which more than 50 percent of all men in Western Europe belong, indicating that they share a common ancestor.

    Among modern-day Egyptians this haplogroup contingent is below 1 percent, according to iGENEA.

    "It was very interesting to discover that he belonged to a genetic group in Europe -- there were many possible groups in Egypt that the DNA could have belonged to," said Roman Scholz, director of the iGENEA Centre.

    Around 70 percent of Spanish and 60 percent of French men also belong to the genetic group of the Pharaoh who ruled Egypt more than 3,000 years ago.

    "We think the common ancestor lived in the Caucasus about 9,500 years ago," Scholz told Reuters.

    It is estimated that the earliest migration of haplogroup R1b1a2 into Europe began with the spread of agriculture in 7,000 BC, according to iGENEA.

    However, the geneticists were not sure how Tutankhamun's paternal lineage came to Egypt from its region of origin.

    The centre is now using DNA testing to search for the closest living relatives of "King Tut."

    "The offer has only been publicized for three days but we have already seen a lot of interest," Scholz told Reuters.
    I don't want to hear another word about inbreeding in West Virginia or anywhere else.
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  • #2
    Yikes! We might all be related.

    I can think of a couple of Polytubbies I certainly would not want as relatives, I disown them.

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    • #3
      Haplogroups don't tell that much about your ancestry, If I recall correctly you only need one ancestor on your paternal line with that haplogroup to inherit it.

      In latin america you have cases of amerindian/native american villages in which lots of men have european haplogroups because some Spaniard left some indian woman pregnant centuries ago, the village was rather endogamic, and the genes ended up spreading all around the community as time passed.
      I need a foot massage

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      • #4
        I declare myself the rightful heir and king of Egypt.
        Blah

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        • #5
          King Tut was a ferner, maybe thats why they offed him

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
            I don't want to hear another word about inbreeding in West Virginia or anywhere else.
            Tex, you know where your ancestors came from ?
            "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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            • #7
              Yes, I do.
              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
              "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • #8
                Connect the dots...
                "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                • #9
                  What the ****? 70% of British? He's not an Egyptian?
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                  "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                  • #10
                    What the ****? From the site:

                    iGENEA exclusively publishes the Y-DNA profile of Tutankhamun and starts the search for his last living relatives.


                    In the year 2009 extended DNA-tests had been carried out with the mummy of Tutankamun and other members for his family. These have only partially been published in February 2010. Despite several demands, the results of the Y-DNA tests have been shut away.
                    iGENEA was able to reconstruct the Y-DNA profile of Tutankhamun, his father Akhenaten and his grandfather Amenhotep III with the help of a recording of the Discovery Channel. The astonishing result:


                    The site looks ****ty and is German. Looks very questionable "Do you have the warrior gene?".
                    "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                    • #11
                      Whoah, ancient Egyptians weren't black?

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                      • #12
                        What do they mean by "with the help of a recording of the Discovery Channel"?
                        "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                        "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                        • #13
                          Doing some googling. Yes, they used a screencap from a Discovery Channel show to do this 'analysis'. The screencap was not even given as being Tut's.

                          Apparently, this company, igenea, is extremely questionable in their genetic analysis. You get that feeling just by going to their website, where you can get tested for "Warrior Genes", "Viking ancestry", and "Cohen genes", indicating supposed descent from Jewish priests.
                          "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                          • #14
                            We think the common ancestor lived in the Caucasus about 9,500 years ago," Scholz told Reuters.

                            Whoop-de-diddly-doo. And I bet that if you go back 60,000 years, absolutely everyone on Earth is related to each other.
                            The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
                              Whoop-de-diddly-doo. And I bet that if you go back 60,000 years, absolutely everyone on Earth is related to each other.

                              Bugs, the reason why this would be more compelling than that is because this R1b haplotype is extremely rare in Egypt (<1%). It would mean that Tut had at least a patrilineal ancestor who was not of the same ethnicity as Egyptians.

                              That would be of some potential historical interest. I shudder at how White Supremacists would take this 'news' being as though there was a belief among supremacists that ancient Egypt was an Aryan-originating society and that the pharaohs were Aryans.

                              However, like I said, this company is shady and their 'research methods' involved using a video taped recording of a Discovery Channel show (). This story has not gotten much traction in print media, apparently, and I've seen blogs devoted to anthropology, egyptology, genetics, etc. that are dismissing this 'research' as invalid.
                              "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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