"Against the Boehner Plan"

[Dinner]

Wised to him, ehh? Its a disservice with each and every one of his posts. Each post should have a truth in advertising sticker on it, giving clear indication that exposure to these kinds of posts kills brain cells.

You describe your posts perfectly. Personal attacks and an empty suit.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Regression to "I know you are" posts at least is an improvement over your normal fare. Keep up the self improvement efforts.

[Zevico]

Wow...

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/im.../21/rel11b.pdf

It almost seems like the Democrats are more in line with public opinion

Wow. What does that have to do with anything? This isn't a discussion about what's popular, or for that matter, the survey you attached (which perfectly explains why the Dems lost the House, by the way). Rather it's about what's right. And you haven't contributed to that discussion at all.

Edit: in fairness, you corrected an incorrect statement by me.

[DaShi]

Neither have you.

[DaShi]

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...777705,00.html

Insightful comments to that garbage.

[DaShi]

Damn those just say no terrorists.



http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/201...-in-the-house/

Krugman is GOD!

[DaShi]

Wow...

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/im.../21/rel11b.pdf

It almost seems like the Democrats are more in line with public opinion

They mostly have been, but because of their incompetencies, they've failed to deliver that message and to act on it when they had the power to do so.

[Tupac Shakur]

At this point, I'm pretty sure I'll never see a social security check in my life.

That's a pretty smart assumption.

[Dinner]

Damn those just say no terrorists.



http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/201...-in-the-house/

As usual you're a dunce. Krugman was saying this is a bad deal in his opinion so it's better to vote it down and go with the 14th amendment approach instead. He's not saying "just say no no matter what" like the t-baggers have been doing.

[Zevico]

Insightful comments to that garbage.

"The compromises that we have witnessed on debt have taken our country to the brink of financial collapse. Currently, the American government is spending 44 cents of each dollar on interest payments. We have compromised our way into disaster. None of the budget plans proposed have real cuts in them -- only promises to cut. The reality is that legally one Congress cannot bind the future Congress to cut, so these promises are actually a lie. We need real and immediate cuts."
There it is, shortly put. And precisely what the author I referred to said. And precisely what I think is a sensible way to look at this problem.
It is quite possible that reduced spending will lead, short-term, to higher unemployment. That doesn't mean that this level of spending is affordable long term. It is the height of silliness to suppose that a short-term benefit is preferable to a long-term solution to the problem.

[giblets]

Wow. What does that have to do with anything? This isn't a discussion about what's popular, or for that matter, the survey you attached (which perfectly explains why the Dems lost the House, by the way). Rather it's about what's right. And you haven't contributed to that discussion at all.

Edit: in fairness, you corrected an incorrect statement by me.

I think arguing over whether government spending is evil would be pretty boring.

[Dinner]

Currently, the American government is spending 44 cents of each dollar on interest payments

What a load of horse **** from that t-bagger guy. Debt services currently are about 11% of the budget not 44%. Those guys couldn't tell the truth to Saint Peter himself.

[giblets]

"The compromises that we have witnessed on debt have taken our country to the brink of financial collapse. Currently, the American government is spending 44 cents of each dollar on interest payments. We have compromised our way into disaster. None of the budget plans proposed have real cuts in them -- only promises to cut. The reality is that legally one Congress cannot bind the future Congress to cut, so these promises are actually a lie. We need real and immediate cuts."
There it is, shortly put. And precisely what the author I referred to said. And precisely what I think is a sensible way to look at this problem.
It is quite possible that reduced spending will lead, short-term, to higher unemployment. That doesn't mean that this level of spending is affordable long term. It is the height of silliness to suppose that a short-term benefit is preferable to a long-term solution to the problem.

Wait, the author think 44% of government spending is interest payments on debt? That is the height of silliness.

[Zevico]

1. This argument is not about whether government spending is good or evil. No one is arguing that governments shouldn't spend money. This is, how does one put it, a strawman.
2. If you had read the article you would know that the author does not actually cite that asserted statistic. That's a quote from the interview.
3. The interview reads as follows--

Default is a false threat. We take in over $220 billion in revenues every month and our debt service is only roughly $20 billion. The only way we will default is if the President of the United States makes the irresponsible choice not to pay our debts.

As to this--

Currently, the American government is spending 44 cents of each dollar on interest payments.

On its face, the two statements contradict one another. Perhaps the interviewee confused his numbers, or was referring to a different issue.

[Dinner]

I doubt he confused his numbers especially when such lies are so common from the right wing.