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  • 3 nuclear reactors melted down after quake, Japan confirms.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapc...html?hpt=hp_t2

    Tokyo (CNN) -- Japan's Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant experienced full meltdowns at three reactors in the wake of an earthquake and tsunami in March, the country's Nuclear Emergency Response Headquarters said Monday.

    The nuclear group's new evaluation, released Monday, goes further than previous statements in describing the extent of the damage caused by an earthquake and tsunami on March 11.

    The announcement will not change plans for how to stabilize the Fukushima Daiichi plant, the agency said.

    Reactors 1, 2 and 3 experienced a full meltdown, it said.

    The plant's owner, Tokyo Electric Power Co., admitted last month that nuclear fuel rods in reactors 2 and 3 probably melted during the first week of the nuclear crisis.

    It had already said fuel rods at the heart of reactor No. 1 melted almost completely in the first 16 hours after the disaster struck. The remnants of that core are now sitting in the bottom of the reactor pressure vessel at the heart of the unit and that vessel is now believed to be leaking.

    A "major part" of the fuel rods in reactor No. 2 may have melted and fallen to the bottom of the pressure vessel 101 hours after the earthquake and tsunami that crippled the plant, Tokyo Electric said May 24.

    The same thing happened within the first 60 hours at reactor No. 3, the company said, in what it called its worst-case scenario analysis, saying the fuel would be sitting at the bottom of the pressure vessel in each reactor building.

    But Tokyo Electric at the same time released a second possible scenario for reactors 2 and 3, one that estimated a full meltdown did not occur. In that scenario, the company estimated the fuel rods may have broken but may not have completely melted.

    Temperature data showed the two reactors had cooled substantially in the more than two months since the incident, Tokyo Electric said in May.

    The earthquake and tsunami knocked out cooling systems at Fukushima Daiichi, causing the three operating reactors to overheat. That compounded a natural disaster by spewing radioactive material into the atmosphere.

    Tokyo Electric avoided using the term "meltdown," and says it was keeping the remnants of the core cool. But U.S. experts interviewed by CNN after the company's announcement in May said that while it may have been containing the situation, the damage had already been done.

    "On the basis of what they showed, if there's not fuel left in the core, I don't know what it is other than a complete meltdown," said Gary Was, a University of Michigan nuclear engineering professor and CNN consultant. And given the damage reported at the other units, "It's hard to imagine the scenarios can differ that much for those reactors."

    A massive hydrogen explosion -- a symptom of the reactor's overheating -- blew the roof off the No. 1 unit the day after the earthquake, and another hydrogen blast ripped apart the No. 3 reactor building two days later. A suspected hydrogen detonation within the No. 2 reactor is believed to have damaged that unit on March 15.
    Wow! Anybody want to guess at the long term ramifications?
    Open for discussion.

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    No word on if the cleanup crew has started falling out?
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    • #3
      I saw a news report that the elderly were volunteering to do the clean up knowing that it was a death sentence.
      I was impressed with there heroism.

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      • #4
        I believe I already addressed this as soon as the incident was reported. The presence of radioactive iodine and cesium species indicated the fuel was melted and compromised. I said so at the time. This is not new news. The status of the containment of the melted fuel is and has always been the issue. To what extent it may or may not have entered into the groundwater is the issue.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe View Post
          I believe I already addressed this as soon as the incident was reported. The presence of radioactive iodine and cesium species indicated the fuel was melted and compromised. I said so at the time. This is not new news. The status of the containment of the melted fuel is and has always been the issue. To what extent it may or may not have entered into the groundwater is the issue.
          it definitely is a mess

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          • #6
            sure it's a mess, but do we have a confirmed kill out of this whole mess so far?

            It sure pulled a lot more weight than the 15k or so dead from other earthquake related causes... which in principle is remarkably little considering how populated the area is and what kind of event this was.

            Japan being prepared
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            • #7
              Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave View Post
              sure it's a mess, but do we have a confirmed kill out of this whole mess so far?

              It sure pulled a lot more weight than the 15k or so dead from other earthquake related causes... which in principle is remarkably little considering how populated the area is and what kind of event this was.

              Japan being prepared
              it takes years for the cancer to show up

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              • #8
                Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave View Post
                sure it's a mess, but do we have a confirmed kill out of this whole mess so far?

                It sure pulled a lot more weight than the 15k or so dead from other earthquake related causes... which in principle is remarkably little considering how populated the area is and what kind of event this was.

                Japan being prepared
                The Fukushima incident drove our domestic nuclear Angst to new heights. Now it's offical that we quit using nuke power by 2020something (too lazy to find an article with the exact year right now).

                Even Merkel's party - usually rather friends with our nuke power industry - completely flipp-flopped on the issue. Now I'm neither one of the "nuclear power is the best since sliced bread" guy nor from the "OMGOMG our future children will all have three legs and two heads" fraction, but I can't stand it when those issues are decided in pure emotional heat.

                'Fcourse, noone else seems to do anything of the same, so I guess if if it turns out that all the renewable energy isn't enough we will just end up importing electricity generated by foreign nuke plants. /nonsense
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                • #9
                  What could go wrong? Building a nuclear power plant on the oceanic coast of a country from whose language the word "tsunami" derives. I couldn't imagine
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                  • #10
                    In Japan they could easily replace every other power source with wind energy by having all citizens making fast ninja moves 30 minutes per day. FACT.
                    Blah

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                    • #11
                      All they need is some long haired people stare at each other all serious-like. The wind will start up, even indoors.
                      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                      • #12
                        Saw a video of a mutated rabbits being born not far from the plants.

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