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  • #16
    Originally posted by BeBro View Post
    They will survive. They're Finnish.
    they are not Japanese?

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    • #17
      Nokia is a Finnish company.
      "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
      "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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      • #18
        Yeah, they are, indeed, Finnished...
        Speaking of Erith:

        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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        • #19
          damn you PH i was going to make that joke!

          i still have a nokia 3210, so durable, hard as nails in fact, don't think i'll ever change it.
          "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

          "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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          • #20
            They are waiting for Steve Jobs to become Finnish and take over
            Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
            GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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            • #21
              Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
              damn you PH i was going to make that joke!

              i still have a nokia 3210, so durable, hard as nails in fact, don't think i'll ever change it.
              No money in making a phone that will last forever.

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              • #22
                Even at their peak I couldn't stand the look of the things...ghastly, ugly phones.
                Speaking of Erith:

                "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                • #23
                  koc, yep that's the problem for them. there is no money in people like me.

                  it's a more general problem as well unfortunately, as in why would a company make something that lasts a long time when they can make something that lasts a short time and sell another product to the consumer.
                  "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                  "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
                    koc, yep that's the problem for them. there is no money in people like me.

                    it's a more general problem as well unfortunately, as in why would a company make something that lasts a long time when they can make something that lasts a short time and sell another product to the consumer.
                    Planned obsolescence, it's called.
                    "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                    • #25
                      Why would you want to buy something that lasts a long time when you can cheaply replace it with something much better in just a few years?

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                      • #26
                        "much better" is debatable though...

                        ie. battery life is in principle much worse in devices which are otherwise considered "much better"
                        Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                        GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                        • #27
                          I have a Nokia xpress music phone, but then I am a third worlder, and all I wanted was an mp3 player with a phone attached. I am so third worlder that the only thing I would want to add to my phone is an am radio.

                          Perhaps Nokia could specialize in phones for third world markets, that model is quite popular in Argentina.
                          I need a foot massage

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                          • #28
                            perhaps they already do, and they have a third world stock price
                            Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                            GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Barnabas View Post
                              I have a Nokia xpress music phone, but then I am a third worlder, and all I wanted was an mp3 player with a phone attached. I am so third worlder that the only thing I would want to add to my phone is an am radio.

                              Perhaps Nokia could specialize in phones for third world markets, that model is quite popular in Argentina.


                              That's actually a great idea for a struggling cellphone company that can't compete with premium cellphones. Maybe not so much in Argentina, but in a lot of developing areas, landlines don't exist and cellphones are far more practical. It might make a lot of business sense for Nokia to focus on the developing world.
                              "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave View Post
                                perhaps they already do, and they have a third world stock price
                                Exactly, they are very strong in the third world and it's showing to be a bad strategy.
                                That market is commoditized, profit margins are low, Chinese noname competitors exist, etc.

                                Apple has more profit on one iPhone than Nokia has on 100 crapphones.

                                BTW Barnabas... did you mean FM radio? Because many phones have that, but I've never
                                heard of a single one that has AM radio.

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