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  • Italian prosecutors expect seismologists to predict earthquakes

    And if they don't, manslaughter charges. Crazy.

    Enzo Boschi, the president of Italy's National Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology (INGV), will face trial on charges of manslaughter with six other scientists and technicians for failing to alert the residents of L'Aquila ahead of the devastating earthquake that struck the central Italian town on 6 April 2009, killing 308 people.

    The seven experts sit on the nation's major risks committee, and were probed by L'Aquila prosecutors after members of the public complained that it was the committee's reassurances that persuaded them not to leave their homes ahead of the quake.

    In addition to Boschi, those facing trial are: Franco Barberi, committee vice president; Bernardo De Bernardinis, at the time vice president of Italy's Civil Protection Department and now president of the country's Institute for Environmental Protection and Research; Giulio Selvaggi, director of the National Earthquake Centre; Gian Michele Calvi, director of the European Centre for Training and Research in Earthquake Engineering; Claudio Eva, an earth scientist at the University of Genoa; and Mauro Dolce, director of the office of seismic risk at the Civil Protection Department.

    The seven were placed under investigation almost a year ago, and today L'Aquila Judge Giuseppe Romano Gargarella announced that they will be tried. According to the Italian daily Corriere della Sera, Gargarella said that the seven defendants had supplied "imprecise, incomplete and contradictory information," in a press conference following a meeting held by the committee 6 days before the quake. In doing so, they "thwarted the activities designed to protect the public," the judge said.

    During the meeting on 31 March 2009—which also included other researchers from the INGV, city officials and representatives of the Civil Protection Department—committee vice chair Barberi, one of the seven to be tried, said there were no grounds for thinking that a major quake was imminent, even though the area around the town had been experiencing a series of smaller tremors in the previous months. In the press briefing afterward, prosecutors say, the commission made statements that gave the town's people a false sense of security.

    Boschi's lawyer, Marcello Melandri, tells ScienceInsider that Boschi has taken the judge's decision very badly and that the defendants had never expected that the case would actually go to court. Melandri insists that Boschi never sought to reassure the population of L'Aquila that there was no threat. On the contrary, the INGV head made it clear that "at some point it is probable that there will be a big earthquake" in the Abruzzo region, of which L'Aquila is the capital, he says.

    Melandri says the trial, scheduled to start on 20 September, could take anywhere between 6 months and 2 years.
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    Italy has the worst court system ever.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by MRT144 View Post
      Italy has the worst court system ever.
      I dunno. I'd rather stand trial there than, say, Saudi Arabia...
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Boris Godunov View Post
        I dunno. I'd rather stand trial there than, say, Saudi Arabia...
        Saudi Arabia doesn't have a court system.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by MRT144 View Post
          Saudi Arabia doesn't have a court system.


          Yes they do.






          Here's a very lengthy paper about the structure of the Saudi legal system
          A Brief Overview of the Saudi Arabian Legal System
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post


            Yes they do.






            Here's a very lengthy paper about the structure of the Saudi legal system
            A Brief Overview of the Saudi Arabian Legal System
            Youre ****ing thick.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by MRT144 View Post
              Youre ****ing thick.
              What the ****? You said Saudi Arabia doesn't have a court system but they do! I'm thick but you're apparently speaking on something you know nothing about. I don't expect you to know about the Saudi legal system beforehand (I didn't either) but you'd think you would do some quick googling before brazenly making a claim like that.
              "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                What the ****? You said Saudi Arabia doesn't have a court system but they do! I'm thick but you're apparently speaking on something you know nothing about. I don't expect you to know about the Saudi legal system beforehand (I didn't either) but you'd think you would do some quick googling before brazenly making a claim like that.
                You really take everything at face value. God help you.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MRT144 View Post
                  You really take everything at face value. God help you.
                  So you were being sarcastic? Why? What was the intention of the sarcasm?

                  Why would you lie?
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                  "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                    • #11
                      Cause I'm a sociopath.
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                      • #12
                        Liar!
                        Monkey!!!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Japher View Post
                          Liar!
                          This is like being on trial in Italy.
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                          • #14
                            It's like shooting snakes out of trees.
                            Monkey!!!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post


                              Yes they do.




                              I don't get it.
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