This country is going to hell.

[giblets]

[Docfeelgood]

[OneFootInTheGrave]

freedom from democratic opression

[giblets]

The same people who would like to ban abortions also want to slash social support for pregnant teenagers who decide to keep the child. They are either stupid or just plain evil.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

just plain evil lead a cohort of the utterly stupid... it's a win win scenario.

[Whoha]

thinning the herds

[Hauldren Collider]

Believing that you shouldn't kill children isn't mutually exclusive with suggesting we shouldn't send money to people who make dumb decisions. You're not allowed to murder your divorced wife who takes half your salary because she won't get a job but the government won't send you any money for that either.

[Riesstiu IV]

The same people who would like to ban abortions also want to slash social support for pregnant teenagers who decide to keep the child. They are either stupid or just plain evil.

It makes perfect sense. They need more serfs.

Also, HC is dumb as hell.

[giblets]

Believing that you shouldn't kill children isn't mutually exclusive with suggesting we shouldn't send money to people who make dumb decisions. You're not allowed to murder your divorced wife who takes half your salary because she won't get a job but the government won't send you any money for that either.

So you care about "children" in the womb so much that you want the government controlling people's bodies, but God forbid anyone's pocketbook get violated a little bit for the sake of those children! They should suffer in poverty because their mom had to drop out of high school when she got pregnant in order to care for them.

[Hauldren Collider]

What I'm saying is that if you look at it from the logic of people who are antiabortion, it's not a matter of "controlling people's bodies", it's a matter of preventing murder. It doesn't matter how much the baby costs you personally and financially, you aren't allowed to kill people. However much it suffers from having a teen mom is irrelevant to whether the mother should be allowed to kill it.

If you reject the idea that abortion is murder, of course this isn't going to make sense to you, because you're operating under a totally different premise.

[giblets]

Regardless of whether it's murder, you apparently want widespread invasion of people's privacy on the part of the government in order to stop it on behalf of those poor fetuses but as soon as they're born, eh, who cares about them?

[giblets]

Why do we even have the government pay for children to receive an education? That just subsidizes being stupid enough to have children.

[Riesstiu IV]

Keep in mind, this manchild claims to be a libertarian who wants limited government. HC has no problem with murder when in comes to Palestinians and the death penalty.

[giblets]

Why don't we install government cameras everywhere in order to catch murderers in the act? Apparently costly government invasions of privacy are acceptable if lives are at stake

[Hauldren Collider]

I'd say my attitude towards Riesstiu has now fallen to complete contempt, but that actually happened quite a while ago...