A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Robert]

re: Renly's death. I think Martin had to place that in the books to show that Melisandre isn't just some crackpot but actually DOES have magic and her disposal. And makes everyone understand that yes this is a fantasy series.

Well, that's a good purpose and it served it's goal. The red god is by far the only god that apparently has powers, or at least his priests do.

[DaShi]

What about the murder god?

[Krill]

re: Renly's death. I think Martin had to place that in the books to show that Melisandre isn't just some crackpot but actually DOES have magic and her disposal. And makes everyone understand that yes this is a fantasy series.

I say this every ****ing time.

There are ****ing dragons. Anybody who thinks that there are dragons and it isn;t a fantasy series is dumb.

[Robert]

What about the murder god?

which god? the god of many faces (of the faceless men?)

[Robert]

I say this every ****ing time.

There are ****ing dragons. Anybody who thinks that there are dragons and it isn;t a fantasy series is dumb.

nobody is saying that it's not fantasy.
It's just that everybody has a certain tolerance for the impact magic can have on the story without it making the story uninteresting.
GRRM could give Melisandre enough magic to make all the others disappear at once, kill all Stanis enemies and place him in the flick of a wrist on the iron throne. the end.
I am pretty sure that all of use would be unsatisfied by such an ending.

Well, some have more tolerance for magic having an important role in the series then others.
Obviously most fans have tolerance for magic otherwise we wouldn't be reading fantasy.
Killing a major person and then just magically let him/her resurrect unspoiled again next day would criple my tolerance.

[DaShi]

which god? the god of many faces (of the faceless men?)

Yes, that one.

[Robert]

it's more like it's followers have the power of the knife... or am I missing something?

[Hauldren Collider]

Edit: spoiler'd because Imran suggested it, sorry guys

Spoiler:

I think they're all real, right? The magic trees have superpowers or something that Bran can use, doesn't that fall under the old gods?

[Imran Siddiqui]

TV show discussion thread.... so, you should probably spoiler tag that.

[Robert]

Spoiler:

I'd say that the warg/wearwood powers Bran has are still human powers...
The faceless men are just very skilled murderers.
But Melissander gets stuff revealed in the fires that apparently is true.

So far I haven't had a clue that the 7 or the drowned gods have any powers.

[DaShi]

it's more like it's followers have the power of the knife... or am I missing something?

They have to get their powers from somewhere. Otherwise, one could say that redhead's power is the shoot shadow monsters from her vagina.

[Robert]

They have to get their powers from somewhere. Otherwise, one could say that redhead's power is the shoot shadow monsters from her vagina.

What special powers do the faceless men have?

[MikeH]

They can change their appearance at will. - as described in the books and demonstrated at the end of the TV show.

[Nikolai]

it's more like it's followers have the power of the knife... or am I missing something?

You obviously missed the episode where the faceless man changed faces.

[Ecthy]

Re: Fantasy and magic. These are GRRM's own words on exactly this matter, making one reference to a first season event.