A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Guynemer]

Looks like I was wrong about the Reeds:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/here-are-some-of-the-new-characters-coming-to-game,75763/

Relevent bit:

Mance Rayder, Daario Naharis, Edmure Tully, Ser Brynden Tully (The Blackfish), Lady Selyse Florent, Shireen Baratheon (Stannis' daughter), Olenna Redwyne (The Queen of Thorns), Beric Dondarrion, Thoros of Myr, Tormund Giantsbane, and Jojen and Meera Reed

Not sure how they'll work them in, but I'm glad to see the Tullys and Stannis' family. And especially Lady Olenna.

[Dinner]

I think Joffrey is in trouble.

His people hated him before the battle and his cowardice during the battle ("I've gotta go, my mommy's calling me") should remove any vestige of credibility he may have had left.

As he never reappeared under mom's skirts afterward I am left wondering what happened to him...

It said he went back to his royal suite to hide out for the rest of the battle.

[Dinner]

Spoiler:

One a single battlefield? Essos. Dothraki would carve open the peasant spearmen from Westeros like a dry Christmas turkey, and there are more Dothraki than from all of the seven kingdoms put together...excluding the Reach.

If you're turkey is dry then you are cooking it wrong.

[Dinner]

Are the dragons part of westeros or essos?
JM

Historically, both. Though right now there are only three and they're in Essos.

[Dinner]

I figured it'd be happening several episodes ago after Renly was killed and then when Little Finger met with Tywin. Seemed pretty obvious from their conversation, but I just forgot about it in the weeks since.

But damn, with Lannisters & Tyrells united, the Barratheons wiped out, and the Greyjoys fighting against Starks, what the heck is Robb going to do? Eek! I suppose we're going to see more of House Tully & Arryn in the next season.

There were no Tyrells in the last episode. The person one or two people in this thread called the knight of flowers is actually the Lannister cousin which Cersey was ****ing and who Tyrian blackmailed into spying for him.

[Ecthy]

There were no Tyrells in the last episode. The person one or two people in this thread called the knight of flowers is actually the Lannister cousin which Cersey was ****ing and who Tyrian blackmailed into spying for him.

Bull****, Loras Tyrell makes his appearance alongside with Tywin's crowd in the throne room at the end, and is easily distinguishable from Lancel Lannister.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Historically, both. Though right now there are only three and they're in Essos.

IIRC, Dragons came from Valyria, which is in Essos. The Targaryens, descended from Old Valyria brought them to Westeros - that's how they conquered the Seven Kingdoms (Field of Fire and all that).

In addition to that Essos advantage:

Spoiler:

In addition also to Dothraki, the Golden Company and other mercenary companies come from Essos. Also, the big banks, such as the Bank of Braavos that is financing much of Westeros's wars. The free cities are the ones with all the cash. So Essos has all the money, all the big mercenary hordes, and the dragons. Westeros would be flattened - unless the Others came to fight on their side

[Jon Miller]

Dragons came from Essos, but now they are from Westeros, except do you count these as coming fro Westeros (although Dany is from Westeros).

JM

[Guynemer]

There were no Tyrells in the last episode. The person one or two people in this thread called the knight of flowers is actually the Lannister cousin which Cersey was ****ing and who Tyrian blackmailed into spying for him.

Mein Gott, there are so many errors in that post one wonders where to begin.

Three (four if one wants to be very pedantic) actually: yes, that ****ing was Loras Tyrell with Twyin at the end; it is Cersei and Tyrion; and Knight of Flowers should be capitalized.

[OzzyKP]

Mein Gott, there are so many errors in that post one wonders where to begin.

Three (four if one wants to be very pedantic) actually: yes, that ****ing was Loras Tyrell with Twyin at the end; it is Cersei and Tyrion; and Knight of Flowers should be capitalized.

As long as we are correcting each other's spelling of names... isn't it Tywin?

But yea, I noticed it was the Loras when I watched the episode, I may have a better idea what is going on in the show then Oerdin who read the books.

[rah]

I think that is actually the worst episode this season. And it's not really that bad, I just don't think it's that great, but it's budget constrained. This deserves a battle on the proportions of the Gladiator opening scene. Just a bit hard to do that anywhere except Mogadishu, and I think the insurance would have been a tad expensive.

For me (with the exception of the green explosion) the scenes that made it the best were not battle scenes. The bar scene, the rally scene, the scenes in the women's sanctuary.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

I agree, though I have to say that the original plan for the episode (where all we see of the battle are reports back to Cersei in the keep) would have been incredibly disappointing. I'm glad they were given the extra cash to make the episode they did.

[rah]

Yes, just enough action to frame the other scenes.

[Guynemer]

As long as we are correcting each other's spelling of names... isn't it Tywin?

Yup. Hate this damned laptop, especially when there is a cat laying across my wrists.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Dragons came from Essos, but now they are from Westeros, except do you count these as coming fro Westeros (although Dany is from Westeros).

JM

These dragons don't come from Westeros. They were a gift from Ilyrio Mopatis, who is from Pentos (IIRC) to Dany.