A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Dinner]

Spoiler:

The queen has returned home
Nice castle (Dragonstone) ... was suprised that no other lord has claimed it for himself since the rebellion, considering its size and defensive properties

And nice to see justice (in form of poisoned wine) being served to all male members of House Frey ... for their willing participation in the red wedding (and the gravest breach of the holy tradition of guest right, anyone could imagine).
Guess now Edmure Tully, together with his Roslin, will become the rulers over the former lands of the Freys.

Seems like Samwell is starting out at the lowest Acolythe level, considering his (not really) intellectually demanding work

In the books it was lightly defended and it was seized during the war of the five kings.

[Cort Haus]

I wish I had something to add but not much happened apart from Arya's massacre and a load of establishing stuff. The Sam drudging scene was a bit gross. Having that on a loop for what seemed like minutes seemed a bit of a filler. Shame they couldn't manage anything better.

Bran broke the wall, presumably, by going through it. I wonder if he'll end up as a White Walker who doesn't actually walk but uses his super-powers for telepathic badness.

[Lorizael]

The Sam drudging scene was a bit gross. Having that on a loop for what seemed like minutes seemed a bit of a filler.

I appreciated the effect they were going for. I think it would have worked better if they'd gone back to Sam throughout the episode and begun each of his scenes with one go around of his day. But they only have so much time and Sam is not the main character, so yeah.

[Ming]

I liked it, but it was simply too long. When each minute viewed is just one more minute closer to the end, I don't need the extra time spent on bed pans.
The point was made quickly, and there was no need to drag it out.

[rah]

Yeah, it played out a bit too long. I like the idea if they had spread it out during the episode, probably would have been funnier. (and made their point better)

[BeBMan]

Finally watched the 1st ep. Liked it, but the "bed pans and latrines" part felt like taking an hour or so


Dragonstone shots were epic - good choice to show only parts of it earlier.


Wondering if Arya get's more to do than massacring bad guys (actually wondering if it has a neg. effect on her, path to the dark side etc.)

[Lorizael]

Arya is no longer "on the path" to the dark side.

[self biased]

Arya is no longer "on the path" to the dark side.

So, she's arrived, then?

[Proteus_MST]

Well, she surely isn't on such a dark path as the men of House Frey and House Bolton (who didn't hesitate to murder women ... among them a pregnant one ... and I don't have to mention Ramsay with his non consensual hardcore BDSM)
And also not on an as dark path as House Lannister, except Tyrion (need not be explained)

She only murdered the male members of House Frey, who more than deserved it (don't think Cersei or Roose would have spared the women if roles were reversed )

[BeBMan]

Yeah, so far they always made her kill someone who "derserved" it in one way or the other - the guy in the tavern who had killed her friend (and stole needle), then Maryn Trant who took his sadistical tendencies to the little girls (and was also conveniently on her hit list).

But for example in case of Dany there was some reflection on whether it's wise to pay back everything in the same way, adding some ambiguity to her character, yet not much in that regard for Arya. Now that she takes out ppl in larger numbers I'm wondering if they just continue the "they deserved it" line or come up with some great conflict of good vs. bad Arya

Or maybe they go with "I can kill guys in scores when I want, but once it's done I'm drinking with Ed, just to show my human side"...

[Lorizael]

I mean sure, Arya isn't yet "killing younglings" dark side, but she's pretty far gone if you ask me.

Anyway, after seeing tonight's episode, I predict that...

Spoiler:

...Theon gets picked up by Gendry, who's still rowing.

[Proteus_MST]

Spoiler:

Jorah Mormomt may get healed thanks to Samwell (the procedure looked very very painful however ... skinning of all affected parts .. nice cut from the skinning to the food in the tavern btw. )

Bad thing that noone of Danys allies knew anything about the 1000 ships that Cersei now has under her control ... likewise bad that the Lookouts on Yaras ships didn't seem to care about looking out at night (or that they were asleep on their posts), so that Eurons ships could ambush them without any problems

Good:
Tyene Sand has survived. Guess with Tyene and Ellaria, Euron now has the perfect present for Cersei

Bad:
Eurons fleet may delay the conquest of Westeros by Danaerys Stormborn (of the House Targaryen, First of her Name, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, Breaker of Chains, Mother of Dragons), especially now that Danys fleet (or at least a good part of it) has been destroyed and her admiral been captured

(Couldn't Euron wait a little bit with attacking? After all it was starting to get interesting between Ellaria and Yara )

[self biased]

Proteus, please use spoiler tags.

[Proteus_MST]

O.K.

Spoiler:

I wonder btw. what will happen to Tyene.
IMHO there are 2 different possibilities:

1. Cersei takes care that she is slowly tortued to death in front of Ellaria (so that Ellaria sees her own daughter die just as Cerseis daughter died thanks to Ellaria)

2. Considering that Bronn has a crush on Tyene (and she saved his life) Bronn takes step to save Tyene. Maybe he convinces Jamie to convince Cersei, that Tyene becomes Bronns wife so that (after Ellarias excution) someone loyal to the Lanniters becomes he new lord of Dorne. This way both sides win ... Bronn gets a beautiful and intelligent noblewoman (and gets his own realm to rule), Tyene gets saved from certain death (and gets a husband she also likes) and the Lannisters prevent a rebellion in Dorne

Problem with Possibility 2 (despite the fact that I would like this outcome) is, that Cersei is known to often act rather irrational

[rah]

that Cersei is known to often act rather irrational