A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Imran Siddiqui]

Unfortunately they kinda ruined the end (the Night's Watch part):

Spoiler:

In the books, Jon gets a letter from Ramsey saying he's beaten Stannis and he's going to tear Winterfell apart unless he sends back his half-sister, who has left the castle. Jon basically steps down as Lord Commander, asks Night's Watch brothers to join him in storming Winterfell, but doesn't explicitly order it.

Hence, when the brothers (and some of them are good ones) stab Snow and say "For the Watch" they actually have a point.

Oh, also... they didn't explicitly show Brienne kill Stannis, right? No Stannis body. Sooo... that seems a bit open

[Dinner]

WTF?

[korn469]

Quite the body count for tonight's episode. Also for the book readers can you give me a yes or no answer if Arya's part in the book was the same as in the show?

[Dinner]

Every time there is an emotional moment you know someone is going to die. The writers are just lazy like that.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Also for the book readers can you give me a yes or no answer if Arya's part in the book was the same as in the show?

Kind of. Mostly yes.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Quite the body count for tonight's episode. Also for the book readers can you give me a yes or no answer if Arya's part in the book was the same as in the show?

Yes, for certain values of yes, but really no.

re: the last scene, I don't have a problem with it. The show motivation may not have been the same as it was in the book, but it was logical. I don't think anything was lost.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I think in the book, for readers there was more of a sense of... well, maybe he deserved that, due to those particular circumstances. I don't think there is much of that for show watchers at all.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

True, though I'm not sure how many book readers were really on board with "maybe he deserved that". Martin did at least try to make the case, though.

[Dinner]

Quite the body count for tonight's episode. Also for the book readers can you give me a yes or no answer if Arya's part in the book was the same as in the show?

Close but not exactly. The rest was even more off.

[Dinner]

It almost seemed like the episode was rushed. Like there was too much stuff and they were running out of time.

[DaShi]

The show already screwed the pooch on keeping up with the books in the previous episode, since Martin plans to have Shireen on the Iron Throne at the end.

[grumbler]

And thank goodness the show has diverged from the books. It couldn't tell Martin's full story, and the more it diverges from the books and eschews spoiling them, the better.

[DaShi]

I don't think that the showrunners can handle the story as well as Martin. I expect a severe decline in the following seasons.

[grumbler]

I think the showrunners can handle the show better than Martin can handle a show. An author in a book has practically infinite time and characters; in a show, both time and actors are strictly rationed. I like the idea that the show has, that Melisande was setting up Stannis all along, getting him out of the way (in a way in which she couldn't be blamed) so Jon could become the next king. I don't like the way they had Stannis get mousetrapped; why would he not have had scouts out to detect the Bolton sortie, and why wouldn't he have formed up his men before they got slaughtered? There's no question that the show writers are sometimes as lazy as Martin himself sometimes is.

[Proteus_MST]

So, just watched Episode 8 ... scary ... especially the zombified Kids

But the Nightwatch should definitely try to get some more of those Trolls