A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[I AM MOBIUS]

I'm talking about your spoiler which allowed me to correctly deduce that:

Spoiler:

Aegon Targaryen has been written out of the TV series - look Tyrion gets to Volantis all by himself!

So, yes, thanks for that Oerdin!

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

I have no idea if it's true to the books or not, but that whole "Oooooooo, if you want to join our super Ninja secret order you have to be refused entry and left on the doorstep for days, before being admitted to sweep the floor, and question your lack of fighty training in order to receive suitably enigmatic responses, young Grasshopper!" thing is one of the biggest cliches in popular culture of the last 50 years. If they dick up the (so far, excellent) Arya arc with that tired old tripe I will be sorely vexed.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

£10 says the next episode sees Arya waxing a car.

[Lorizael]

I suspect the show won't go much into the religion of the Faceless Men, but (imo) the reason it plays out the way it does is because...

Spoiler:

...people are essentially mistaken about the Faceless Men being an assassin's guild.

[rah]

Surprised there hasn't been more discussion about the Sansa story line.

[Nikolai]

I think it's a mistake, unless there's a plot we don't know about yet.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Big time mistake, IMO.

[rah]

To cover their A** they go out of their way to have LF spout how little he knows about him so he won't appear so dickish.

Spoiler:

But I think that statement just makes him appear more fallible. How could he not know about the results of his tax collecting.
Those are the types of things that everyone talks about and would be secret.

[Lorizael]

I get the Sansa change. Rather than have her dick around in the Eyrie with Robin/Robert, they're giving her a plot line the books reserved for a minor character I've forgotten the name of.

[regexcellent]

Jeyne Poole. But what happens to Jeyne Poole probably doesn't happen to Sansa.

The Sansa plot makes no sense at all but they thought want to conserve the number of characters I suppose. There are a number of things that got changed for simplicity that make it all "work" together:

Spoiler:

Jon's apparently going to Hardhome, so there's no pink letter and therefore no need for fake arya shenanigans
Mance isn't going to Winterfell, Brienne is instead
Davos isn't going to White Harbor or securing Rickon it seems, so Sansa's standing in as the real Stark to become ruler of Winterfell

[Imran Siddiqui]

She dicks around learning the tools of the trade from Littlefinger, however. Who had a much more brilliant plan in the books.

[rah]

Actually I'm enjoying this season a bit more because they're past where I stopped reading the books.
I don't get irritated when the make a change I think is stupid and I don't always know what's going to happen.

[regexcellent]

His plan in the books is fantastic (although doomed to fail I think). Here, he's thrown the key to his rule of the Vale over to his biggest regional rival (Lord Royce), he's sending Sansa to marry a complete psychopath who he claims to have no knowledge of on the hope that somehow she'll be running the place and not Ramsay (or perhaps hoping Stannis will take the place over? idk), even though Roose Bolton ****ing murdered her father and is in bed with the Lannisters. It makes no sense at all. Show Littlefinger acts like a complete ****ing ******.

In the books, you get the sudden realization right before he murders Lysa (and pins it on the singer rather than doing the whole suicide wink wink thing) that he's been behind everything, and it all comes together as one huge masterstroke. In the show it seems like he's just failing upwards.

[Lorizael]

Jeyne Poole.

I know, but a casual reading of the series could leave you utterly flummoxed as to who Jeyne Poole is when she suddenly pops back into the picture.

She dicks around learning the tools of the trade from Littlefinger, however. Who had a much more brilliant plan in the books.

She's still learning the trade, kind of. And I still have no idea what Littlefinger's plan is, in the books or the show.

[rah]

Yes, my wife, who never read any of the books saw this and said, "I thought you said he was a mastermind, but he's more of an idiot if he doesn't know what's going on here"