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Originally posted by regexcellent View PostSpoiler:No, Joffrey ordered the botched assassination attempt and gave the would-be assassin his father's valyrian steel blade to do it with.
These aren't really spoilers, we're past the point in the show where any of this matters.
Spoiler:He knew Bran knew his "dad" wasn't really his father and instead his uncle was so he wanted Bran silenced so the secret wouldn't get out and Joffery would stay heir to the throne.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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So Sersi was all "Joffrey darling, Bran caught your uncle and I screwing in the tower, can you clean up any loose ends for mommy?" Why would Sersi share this information with him instead of just taking care of it herself?
Joffery, at least as presented in the show, hasn't been terribly involved in all the scheming, he is just a cruel bully. It seems too sophisticated a move for him, especially that early.Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
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Originally posted by regexcellent View PostNo. Joffrey died believing his father was Robert.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
[Brandon Roderick? You mean Brock's Toadie?][Hanged from Yggdrasil]
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OIAW
“You might be disappointed by the result,” Varys replied. “The storms come and go, the waves crash overhead, the big fish eat the little fish, and I keep on paddling. Might I trouble you for a taste of the wine that Lord Slynt enjoyed so much?”
Tyrion waved at the flagon, frowning. Varys filled a cup. “Ah. Sweet as summer.” He took another sip. “I hear the grapes singing on my tongue.”
“I wondered what that noise was. Tell the grapes to keep still, my head is about to split. It was my sister. That was what the oh-so-loyal Lord Janos refused to say. Cersei sent the gold cloaks to that brothel.”
Varys tittered nervously. So he had known all along.
“You left that part out,” Tyrion said accusingly.
“Your own sweet sister,” Varys said, so grief-stricken he looked close to tears. “It is a hard thing to tell a man, my lord. I was fearful how you might take it. Can you forgive me?”
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Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Jesus Christ Oerdin. Cersei had the bastards killed because they were a threat to her son's reign, since they could be used to demonstrate that the kid was an incest baby.
edit: Oh, ****, did they change that for the show? Huh.Last edited by regexcellent; May 2, 2014, 00:18.
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In the show, Joff had the bastards killed. In the books, it was Cersei.
The reason an assassin came at Bran when he was crippled:
Spoiler:Joff overheard his supposed "father" Robert say something about how that was no way to live, so he did it in an attempt to gain favor with Robert."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud
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Yes, in the books, Joffery is slightly less a monster and a lot of what he does is to gain approval by Robert (until his death, obviously) and Cersei.
edit: as Reg says, this really isn't spoilers since the books seemingly changed it dramatically (or at the very least isn't interested in answering the question).“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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